Message from @meglide
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The larger point is that when you open holes in your election security large enough to drive a truck through you know a truck is coming. Far from undermining democracy, examining and discussing these issues builds our understanding of what a secure election looks like. I spent time in emerging democracies, and this work is critical.
Wisconsin Elections Commission admits to breaking Wisconsin Election Law.
@RobertGrulerEsq Is this a correct interpretation of the law? Have you seen this?
Wait. It says "may not be counted". Does it need to say "shall not be counted"?
May is discretionary, shall is mandatory
Question would be if the law provides any guidance on the discretionary part
I see. This is the law in case your interested in it. I'm looking over for guidance. https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/6/IV/87
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> ... Not that we have the hard proof of this...
@stevesirag yeah that's the deal isn't it
Yet
We do have evidence
> We do have evidence
@stevesirag then bring it before and see if it is sufficient to get a favorable court ruling on it ... my guess is that it is not
before a court that is
Don't need to. Just need enough to convince the state legislature.
You can count on them to do what's popular in their state
> You can count on them to do what's popular in their state
@DrSammyD which will translate into letting the popular vote of their state stand absent of substantial election fraud
Maybe, maybe not.
Depends on what's shown in court. If it's just shy of rising to the level of a court injunction, it might just be that the state legislatures find it convincing enough to appoint different delegates
I don't see too many of these guys getting thrown out for distrusting the counts in the Cities. Hell, it'd probably secure their future victory.
interesting ... in GA about 46k voted for Pres that did NOT vote in the Senate race and Biden got about 100k more votes than the Dem candidate for Senate .... margin of "victory" for Biden over Trump about 14k
That could just be dems voting straight ticket and GOP not
> That could just be dems voting straight ticket and GOP not
@Elzam nope that total count includes 3rd party candidates on the ballot
total votes for Pres (all candidates) minus total votes for Sen (all candidates) = 46k
OK so 46k democrats voted for Biden and no one else
And some number of republicans voted for Biden + GOP seats
keep looking at the numbers ... not exactly what you just said
almost every vote for Rep Sen was also vote for Trump
It still doesn't account for any number of ballots with just Biden
you're catching on
difference between Trump and Biden is only 14k
Ballots with just a presidential candidate happen in the order of 100k every year
In every state
It's not suspicious
Unless you want to go back and say they're suspicious every time it's done, which, OK go for it
> It's not suspicious
@Elzam not saying it is just saying it is interesting
How can it be interesting if it happens every election?
I'm trying to discern what the Sen runoff will be like
I see
also if the Rep gets just 50 percent or over then no runoff
this Rep stands at 49.71 percent
why no pres runoff in GA?