It could happen at any point I imagine.

@TaLoN132 yeah, I agree. I hope somehow at the very least you (people in general not specifically you) can get some hard core trump supporters who believe the election was stolen to acknowledge that

Gonna say counting volume in FL, CA and TX might be a greater burden than elsewhere. Lol. We'd still be waiting.

As it's in the record.

@Zuluzeit We are still waiting...

No, the counts are in. We are waiting to placate the incredulous.

Everyone knew about the red mirage , I don’t get why people are surprised to wake up to see different results.

All this is seems to be the result of a rush to get through the process.

I mean, there absolutely has been some sus-as-heck things that happened in this election.

States decide how to assess the will of their people. I imagine they thought things through and didn't err on the side of expediency, although I'm sure it was a consideration.

I meant they are still counting in CA... where I live. Actually, they may have finished yesterday. NY still is only at 86%.

But the idea that this is one big conspiracy as Rudy and Powell say leaves me saying "pics or it didn't happen"

No more sus than another election

Lol send pics

Have to br patient. It may be someone has evidence. Not a whole lot that can be done without damning evidence at this point imho.

Old internet adage Zulu.

"pics or it didn't happen. A phrase used on Internet forums to counter the vast range of unverifiable claims made by users"

Oh snap. Had no idea CA ran that late. Foregone conclusion anyway but damn.

@Maw I am guessing that there are questionable things that happen at every election. It is woefully dependent on humans to do the leg work. People get tired and make mistakes. They get lazy and cut corners. And there are some that are dumb and try to game the system, but, so far, those seem to have been fairly limited.

I was unaware of NY as well but same conclusion.

No argument there, I've commonly used the probability example as most likely proof of fraud.

Just the ultimate question is what scale.

And I'm taking the occam's razor stance as I usually do.

And hanlon, but yeah.

It's important to not conflate plausibility of fraud with probability of voting behavior. We have examples. Lol

I have been waiting to see Powell's firehose of evidence that she has been promising since 11/8. So far, there has not been anything concrete. Just circumstantial accusations.

I mean there is already direct evidence of it, just in small cases.

@TaLoN132 I imagine it is a lengthy task to organize that mountain of condemning proof.

On both sides.

Oh for sure.

Rudy and Bubbles are both caricatures of themselves. I put no claims past them. I'll just leave it at that.

Retail stores have a certain percentage allotted to fraud and abuse every year , elections are similar in that regard

For sure.

And rightfully so.

Yeah

I think it's retail stores have acceptable limits of loss due to theft tho.

Some of these states honestly need to be held accountable for their incompetence if nothing else. Incompetence and conspiracy look similar from the outside.

Yeah theft from both customers and employees stealing and breaking stuff

That doesn't mean their clientele or employees are all banned from the store.

When I was a kid I worked at pier one and this lady came in the store and broke like a 300 dollar glass table

She felt bad but we didnt charge her and just cleaned it up