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Not sure it invalidates the precepts though. 'No true Scotsman'
Until the 16th Century, it was the only (western) Christian religion.
@thebrodys every christian claims their version is the right one. It seems to be a huge part of abrahamittic religions to be the one with the right understanding.
Js behavior of authoritative adherents isn't the test. It fails spectacularly otherwise, anyway.
If pedophilia were some property of the faith, then you'd have a beef on those grounds.
Ground beef, if you will.
@Zuluzeit, you just advanced to level 19!
I get that argument But to be Christian is to know and believe Christ as your Savior. Not the pope not the priests, not Mary and not any of the Saints. Only Christ and in Christ alone.
as described by the 7 councils, yes. I know.
and everyone has a version of how that is achieved, based on what text they like the best.
I for one, dont understand what I need to be saved from.
Why am I under threat in the first place?
Doesn’t even have the same Bible as Christianity
But by that argument, belief in the church heirarchy is irrelevant...you're good as long as you also believe in Jesus. @thebrodys
there are 80 different books all claiming to be christian.
You can also be a serial killer, as long as youvbelieve in christ.
Heaven must be full of assholes.
Christianity doesn’t have church hierarchy. A Christian and there’s only two Christ no other person place or thing
Used car salesmen everywhere.
A Christian answers to Christ alone*
So any religion is Christianity, as long as it includes belief in Christ, by your own proclamation. I'm not putting words in your mouth. @thebrodys
The *only* necessary component.
That’s not accurate. To be Christian is to follow Christ’s teachings. You can lose your salvation if you fall away from his teachings
@Doc No, you need God to sacrifice himself unto himself to appease himself for two particular ancestors of ours' transgressions.
The basis of the Christian faith is the New Testament that was ratified by Pope Innocent I in the year 405. Withouth Catholicism, there is no Christian Bible.
@thebrodys Oh. That's a little more elaborate than your original assertion. Apologies.
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@thebrodys now you are changing the version. It started out as "believe Christ as your Savior". When prodded in, you changed that to "follow Christ’s teachings". I have seen this exact discussion before.
Yes, what doc said.
Christians believe Christ is the savior and we are called to follow his teachings
What does this have to do with elections
salty ^^
Blind faith in a messiah. 100% apt. @leftingfighter33
@thebrodys and if you believe in christ as your savior, yet continue to be a sinner, what then?
if you fail to follow his teachings, yet believe in him as savior?
Jesus is in the Quran.. are muslims Christians in a way .
no, they think he is a prophet. Not a savior.