That’s the choice

my race is blue my gender is blue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinWA0EenDY

You think these kids are capable of understanding complex gender identity stuff when they don't even understand largely what's happening to them through puberty?

@james j would you like me do describe the process to you, or are you already satisfied with your insight into it?

But what is the rush? Transition as an adult. I don’t know what it’s like to be a 14 year old boy, but as a 14 year old girl I made dreadful decisions but the good thing in my case was I didn’t have a life changing procedure that I couldn’t reverse.

The process of evaluation to identify a trans person or the transition process itself @Doc

Do you really think it's as simple as saying: "Oh, hey. I guess I'm trans."

@james j the medical procedure to assess whether or not to grant surgery?

I mean I have repeated many times it’s not just up to the person stating they are trans it s amount decision that requires professional evaluation @Maw

I personally have concerns allowing minors to undergo drastic, permanent, life-altering decisions of that type. I won't let my kids get tattoos. And yet I fully support my LGBTQ friends. It's complicated. For years, female gymnasts have taken measures to stave off puberty in the hopes of making it to the Olympics, which is both scary and admirable. That's a tough one. I am certain that I would not support a minor being able to make that decision without parental consent, though - at least with the limited knowledge that I have on the subject.

I think when they're legally an adult and have full body autonomy? Go nuts.

@Doc no the procedure kids undergo to determine if they are truly trans

@james j It would mirror that of adults.

No question.

It shouldn’t if it does @Doc

@james j I have no comment. I am never normative.

@Doc, you just advanced to level 18!

btw <#772982351520333824>

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CtftWcgXjdg&feature=share

I told you to stop that, this is on topic.

This is policy-related.

okay I want tax free sexual organs

on layaway

election on topic ^^

@Doc normative meaning you don’t prescribe shoulds?

I listened to that show... I thought she made some compelling arguments on the group phenomenon.

That’s a good listen if you want to learn a bit more about this topic. It’s concerning.

Except that's not mainstream politics.

Anyway.

She did. It’s scary.

@james j Correct. I make decisions on what I like. Valid for only. I never tell anyone what they should like or do.

I've explained multiple times today:

The election room is for political discussions.

so it's #americapolicy ?

Including covid.

Including policy.

what is <#771200918053584916> then? also policy but police stuff

Including political ideology.

ideology genders ^^

It's about the case of George Floyd.

I think the egyptian gods are turning in their graves