Message from @Doc
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But that’s my point
Do we really think parents/children should have a choice in changing their body before they're capable of rationalizing these ideas for themselves.
What Maw said
Now, I am not a puritan. I dont care if adults like talking about masturbation with 8 year olds in schools. But to claim on non-pedophilic is somewhat wrong.
@Maw I think here is a long process with the use and guidance of specialized physicians that have to approve any kind of medical change
How does a physician know what gender is best for your child?
Answer me that, honestly.
@james j the primary school curriculum in europe now contains sessions in which adults talk to 7 and 8 year olds about their masturbation habits.
@Maw If you are asking me, I dont know what is best for anyone. Which is why I approach healthcare like a steward on a plane. This is the menu, what do you want?
Exactly.
Do you think a 14 year old is capable of making permanent, body-altering choices with the foresight capacity they have at that age?
Well gender is not up to the physician , the actual transition process is guided by a doctor to make sure , the kid isn’t faking, eliminating other variables, waiting , regular checkups , There are actual physical differences that could be present like people with klienfileders syndrome
"faking"
Then who does? The parents?
A team of people eliminating variables it’s a joint decision, personally I think people should wait till they are 18 but this is more of a question for those in the medical field @Maw
You shouldn’t be able to have life changing medical procedures like that before the brain is fully formed. That’s all I’m saying
its a matter of taste
A joint decision that isn't the person that is being affected.
My taste in music at 14 was bloody awful
@Doc well it’s not some willy nilly decision with no barriers to entry
No, just a bunch of doctors that feel like Jimmy should be a woman.
@Maw its a joint decision between the physicians and the person in question
Not without the other
How? Are you saying that 14 year olds can know what they want and know what's best for them down the line? They're going through puberty, which makes a lot of kids confused.
They don't even understand the changes in their body.
You would only be able to get that information from a trans person that knew they were trans
what.
Meaning ask a trans person
trans by choice?
^^
I said knew they were trans