Message from @Doc

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2020-11-26 23:35:19 UTC  

But that’s not who people are talking about

2020-11-26 23:35:29 UTC  

and some of those pedos organize in unions that focus on the gentials of kids, @james j

2020-11-26 23:35:35 UTC  

Eyehole transition?

2020-11-26 23:36:04 UTC  

A union of pedos

2020-11-26 23:36:13 UTC  

HRT at early stages of development leads to permanent bodily changes into your adult life.

2020-11-26 23:36:25 UTC  

indeed. It has worked itself into primary school curriculum here, @james j

2020-11-26 23:36:32 UTC  

I don’t think anyone is arguing against that @Maw

2020-11-26 23:36:44 UTC  

What has @Doc

2020-11-26 23:36:50 UTC  

But that’s my point

2020-11-26 23:36:51 UTC  

Do we really think parents/children should have a choice in changing their body before they're capable of rationalizing these ideas for themselves.

2020-11-26 23:37:00 UTC  

@Beth what is your point

2020-11-26 23:37:07 UTC  

@james j the culture that adults focus on the genitals of children.

2020-11-26 23:37:16 UTC  

What Maw said

2020-11-26 23:37:44 UTC  

Now, I am not a puritan. I dont care if adults like talking about masturbation with 8 year olds in schools. But to claim on non-pedophilic is somewhat wrong.

2020-11-26 23:38:09 UTC  

@Maw Noone changing their gender is "rational"

2020-11-26 23:38:16 UTC  

@Maw I think here is a long process with the use and guidance of specialized physicians that have to approve any kind of medical change

2020-11-26 23:38:32 UTC  

@Doc I have no idea about what your are talking about

2020-11-26 23:38:50 UTC  

How does a physician know what gender is best for your child?

2020-11-26 23:38:54 UTC  

Answer me that, honestly.

2020-11-26 23:39:07 UTC  

@james j the primary school curriculum in europe now contains sessions in which adults talk to 7 and 8 year olds about their masturbation habits.

2020-11-26 23:39:57 UTC  

@Maw If you are asking me, I dont know what is best for anyone. Which is why I approach healthcare like a steward on a plane. This is the menu, what do you want?

2020-11-26 23:40:07 UTC  

Exactly.

2020-11-26 23:40:41 UTC  

Do you think a 14 year old is capable of making permanent, body-altering choices with the foresight capacity they have at that age?

2020-11-26 23:41:00 UTC  

Well gender is not up to the physician , the actual transition process is guided by a doctor to make sure , the kid isn’t faking, eliminating other variables, waiting , regular checkups , There are actual physical differences that could be present like people with klienfileders syndrome

2020-11-26 23:41:07 UTC  

usually not any more or less than a 20 year old, @Maw

2020-11-26 23:41:08 UTC  

"faking"

2020-11-26 23:41:17 UTC  

@Maw I don’t think a 14 year old makes that decision

2020-11-26 23:41:31 UTC  

Then who does? The parents?

2020-11-26 23:41:48 UTC  

@Maw Most millennials are arrested in development at around 14. So they remain that age.

2020-11-26 23:42:40 UTC  

A team of people eliminating variables it’s a joint decision, personally I think people should wait till they are 18 but this is more of a question for those in the medical field @Maw

2020-11-26 23:42:56 UTC  

@james j we have no reply for you.

2020-11-26 23:43:01 UTC  

You shouldn’t be able to have life changing medical procedures like that before the brain is fully formed. That’s all I’m saying

2020-11-26 23:43:04 UTC  

its a matter of taste

2020-11-26 23:43:05 UTC  

A joint decision that isn't the person that is being affected.

2020-11-26 23:43:18 UTC  

@Doc most tastes in music actually are cemented at the age of 14

2020-11-26 23:43:38 UTC  

My taste in music at 14 was bloody awful

2020-11-26 23:43:48 UTC  

@Doc well it’s not some willy nilly decision with no barriers to entry

2020-11-26 23:44:18 UTC  

No, just a bunch of doctors that feel like Jimmy should be a woman.

2020-11-26 23:44:43 UTC  

@Maw its a joint decision between the physicians and the person in question

2020-11-26 23:44:52 UTC  

Not without the other