Message from @nachik

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2020-11-27 06:49:37 UTC  

@DrSammyD lemme know if you care to have any of this

2020-11-27 06:49:39 UTC  

Why can CA not pay for their own healthcare

2020-11-27 06:49:57 UTC  

Why is CA asking NY to pay

2020-11-27 06:50:16 UTC  

Because it would make the overall cost cheaper

2020-11-27 06:50:25 UTC  

If the fifth largest economy cannot afford it

2020-11-27 06:50:29 UTC  

For all parties involved

2020-11-27 06:50:45 UTC  

You still want to take the most economic route

2020-11-27 06:50:53 UTC  

If the overall cost is cheaper, why can't CA take the money they're spending now, universal healthcare, save money

2020-11-27 06:51:02 UTC  

Why do they want to ask NY to pay

2020-11-27 06:51:31 UTC  

@DrSammyD maybe it is suspicious; the ratios for whatever reason seem to converge a lot on certain times (the vertical blotches); though it might just be a dump where a lot of reportings happen to come in at the same time

2020-11-27 06:51:32 UTC  

Well in this scenario ny would also benefit if it’s federal

2020-11-27 06:51:59 UTC  

No no. CA earlier tried to independently go universal healthcare

2020-11-27 06:52:07 UTC  

They asked the fed to foot the bill

2020-11-27 06:53:03 UTC  

I will never ever forget the Starcraft Dominion Conspiracy though

2020-11-27 06:54:55 UTC  

It says here they would not be granted a federal waiver @Elzam

2020-11-27 06:55:06 UTC  

I need to see what this waver is about

2020-11-27 06:55:19 UTC  

Universal healthcare, or any significant social welfare, is unworkable with open borders. The US has so far open borders internally, and recently it has had pretty porous borders to the South.

2020-11-27 06:55:32 UTC  

Nah

2020-11-27 06:55:40 UTC  

The UKs NHS is suffering the same problem

2020-11-27 06:55:48 UTC  

Open boarders isn’t something we even have

2020-11-27 06:56:00 UTC  

we do have the same problem in the UK

2020-11-27 06:56:20 UTC  

which is one of the reasons why the NHS is garbage despite all the propaganda

2020-11-27 06:59:15 UTC  

I looked it up , if California were to implement single payer health care they wouldn’t be given additional money from the federal government they would need a waiver to pool already existing federal funds into a single central fund, so ny would not pay for anything @Elzam

2020-11-27 07:00:05 UTC  

then you'd be defunding all these other fed programmes, right?

2020-11-27 07:00:24 UTC  

No you are just pooling it into a central fund

2020-11-27 07:00:40 UTC  

No additional money taken from the federal government

2020-11-27 07:00:41 UTC  

so what is happening with all that money currently

2020-11-27 07:00:57 UTC  

It’s divided up to go to specific things

2020-11-27 07:01:04 UTC  

which specific things

2020-11-27 07:01:10 UTC  

It’s almost a states rights issue

2020-11-27 07:01:15 UTC  

these specific things would stop receiving these funds

2020-11-27 07:01:26 UTC  

No

2020-11-27 07:02:22 UTC  

so there is this massive amount of money that currently is being spent in "specific things" that wouldn't make any difference if the money were to be reallocated to something else

2020-11-27 07:03:14 UTC  

let CA go for it then, so long as that fed spending is not on fed-run stuff within the state

2020-11-27 07:03:53 UTC  

It’s money that needs to be released and moved around prob so they would have more control of federal funding, they would create a central trust fund

2020-11-27 07:04:51 UTC  

They are not allowed

2020-11-27 07:06:06 UTC  

you'd need to address what specific things are these and if CA should really be able to do away with them

2020-11-27 07:06:11 UTC  

that's a States rights issue

2020-11-27 07:06:31 UTC  

Let the states do as they please

2020-11-27 07:06:46 UTC  

I generally agree

2020-11-27 07:06:58 UTC  

Yet the federal government stops them