james you dont even know basic geography, i told you i live in the dakotas and have absolutely no loyalty to the south. you are stuck on this and its pathetic. you prove my point that you coastal elites from shithole liberal cities can only focus on what rural americas does and you literally think my existence lowers your quality of living. it doesnt. it never will. i dont have the economic or political power to ever do anything that would negatively effect you. nor would I ever push or support a policy that would. you are completely brainwashed and propagandized by the DNC and their tech/media allies

That pay federal taxes

When I speak of the south I can include the flyover states as well @SPEARS

@Beth I will not claim any kind of competency on american media, but here every newspaper has a "political editor" and will remove anything that is in contrast to the "policy" of the newspaper.

But your states puts less into the federal government than they take out @busillis

Conspiracy theories like... Trump Russia collusion?

Well that’s why I said to an extent

@Beth for the bigger newspapers here, that extent is very small.

@james j Where does your food come from?

But, yeah. to an extent. I will not split words.

Or like the Russians hacked Hillary Clinton's emails

the only thing he is right about in all of this is the federal defecit rural red states have. its the only part i agree with. it needs to be fixed. its inexcusable that us midwest states take more than we provide. however that margins are very slim and not very significant in the total fed budget

Or like Trump is effectively different than the rest of Jackass president

Those kind of conspiracy theories

the thing is though, these cities would starve without the funding. I wouldn't though;.

But if people don’t stand up to it then we might as well just realise we are going down a slippery slope and we will be like China before we know it

Let me qualify that by stating jackasses does a prerequisite for becoming a politician.

I think some people overestimate others' susceptibility to propaganda. It could be because they are projecting.

@Beth I disagree. The papers are focused on "click-winners". They are providing exactly what people want. No one to stand up against that.

Those are just politically motivated investigations that have existed for decades. They work better on conservatives. You typically don’t have people invested in the Russian conspiracy as you find the right wing Alex Jones conspiracy types. It’s hard to make a good amount of money with liberal viewers but super easy with the right. I’m talking about the soros, intetdementional aliens , type conspiracies. @busillis

i think you should stop being passive aggressive and actually call me out

@SPEARS, you just advanced to level 6!

The u.s. population is so propagandize and no one knows anything.

@Doc Yes, it's a product for sale.

Start politically-motivated conspiracy theories are different from other conspiracy theories in what way?

@SPEARS liberal cities give more money to the government to help out poor states. California makes most of the counties fruits and vegetables. The only thing we can use the flyover states for is grain.

you realize the russian stuff was a complete fabrication right?

@Beth If the people disagreed with these media outlets, they could just stop reading/visiting/buying them. And they would vanish. They exist because people like their productions.

I’ll stand alone then @Doc 🙋🏼‍♀️😂

@Beth almost.

Spears, for the love of God, please chill out. You don't need to call out other people here, in fact, I actively discourage it as it has no means to make the conversation more productive. It degrades it.

@Beth Which is not bad. The majority is always wrong.

If you don't want to hear him, block him and move on.

most major media companies are operating on deficits right now actually

Inter-dimensional aliens are from DMT kulture. Terence McKenna and Associated forces.

I don’t mind being on the outside, I think it just gives you a slightly clearer view

if you can't see that zulu was targeting me when he said that idk what to say

I admitted it was not entirely appropriate. I was trying to say that the perspective of the 1918 being of Spanish origin - even though it likely came from Kansas originally - is because that was when/where it became transparent. As with your belief that Obama "went crazy" with drones may be because he was more transparent about what was happening. I just offer it as a possibility as we both, admittedly, aren't that knowledgeable on the subject.

@SPEARS yes, the zoomers are detached, so they are losing their inflow of customers.

How was he targeting **you**?

@Beth How right you are. One can never see a forest when inside it.