Message from @andrasol
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Marx was wrong in that economy/matrialism is the only force.
I believe it's usually framed as "The inevitability of socialism/revolution"
There are plenty of ways to avoid the revolution.
Religion is one example.
The US has too many tribes/sub cults on all levels of society. at some point those who have chosen more than one tribe end up conflicting. In the U.K. this tribe culture doesn’t exist...Brexit somewhat.
Reform?
reform postpones the revolution, yes.
Good example Doc.
Brexit somewhat? 🤣
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Brexit guys were like Trump seems cool we need to find a UK Trump
I’ve just seen many more tribal sects in the US where one has a unconditional following: Back the blue for example.
So you're saying a socialist system is inevitable, but the means to get there are really what's questionable? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Through either reform or revolution.
Marx was wrong in way more than that xD
The brexit cult was payed for by your british oligarchs not wanting to have overlords in Berlin. Which is comfortable for me. The EU denationalization-policies is poison.
And ive just reread das kapitaal
@andrasol most people who claim marx was wrong a lot have never read marx, or have read marx but failed to understand it. I therefore have this rule that I test peoples understanding of marx before I am willing to engage in a discussion on Marx.
Sure
Im not claiming im an economist, but ive read the audiobook twice.
I voted Brexit, I was ok with some EU policies especially Human Rights but....open borders was a no deal, it’s why the Majority of Brits voted leave. And now we f’d it all up.
The difference between reading physically and listening to an audiobook is that it's way easier to reiterate over stuff you don't really fully conceptualize in text.
And listen to economy podcasts daily. As well ss hzving taken a comparative economics course
Which I doubt everyone can fully conceptualize something reading it once.
Like Nietzsche, Marx has to be read 1 chapter pr. month and processed by drawing and noting.
It takes anything between 5 and 10 years to read Zarathustra.
Talking speed != Processing speed.
Fair. Im not criticising the points he makes. Within his woldview, they are fair.
It's his base premisses where he builds upon that i disagree on
"most people read more than they understand"
Which is a good thing
Id rather read just above or generaly above my level
If we were talking about crime drama novels I'd agree.
Than keep reading below
And then you return to it after a year and re read
I put the link for the AZ hearing in general chat so that it doesn’t get lost in this one. I have to work and won’t be able to see much of it😞
