Message from @AdvanceManExtraordinaire
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Benford's law is used as a means to show irregularities worth investing more time into investigation.
It's by no means an adequate tool of proof.
if anyone is interested in actually _trying_ benford's law on random normal distributions, see here: https://observablehq.com/@realazthat/benfords-law/2
the only way to get it to work is to raise the sigma
Well In some cases you can’t . Some lady say she saw something. You can’t prove that false or true unless there were camera present or something @AdvanceManExtraordinaire
no one is claiming it is, however people are claiming it isn
isnt realiable for anything
Watch what i sent... that goes into every countr point you make....
there is no situation where actual random data will apply to benfords law
I'm watching
This is the nature of affidavits that were used in court https://youtu.be/Q_get06-tgo “lies and spam” @AdvanceManExtraordinaire
Have there been any evidentiary hearings?
That is incorrect
Thanks! Pm me after if you like. I really want to know
I recommend watching the latest rr group video explaining the purpose of the earlier court cases
Not to mention that tabulated voter data is hardly random...
Whether it's reliable or not I have no idea, I don't think they have released any information on how frequently Benford's law leads to finding financial fraud.
there is no such thing as random in sets of numbers entirely generated by human interaction
he's claiming my demonstration shouldn't work (it clearly does ... just raise the sigma)
I understand the purpose. It’s to get try and stall for time so they can put something together. But even what they have put together so far is still speculation @AdvanceManExtraordinaire
If you witness someone murdering an innocent joggers in cold blood, do you think there should be a trial with cross examination of your witness testimony based on your affidavit?
So? why does this mean Benford's law shouldn't apply? Benford's law has nothing to do with humans
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it doesn't
Actually I believe humans are more random than computers. A random function on a computer is not really entirely random.
it works on any "natural numbers" or or any set of numbers that has certain properties
I get it... I was just disputing that voting data could be characterized as random.
There is the entropy factor.
the reason it is used to detect fraud is because humans tend to pick _non-random_ numbers with a preference
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire yes but ultimately if it’s is just you then that’s all you got is your affidavit.
i.e they tend to like numbers beginning with various digits more equally
Cross examine all you like
Damning.
Computer randomization is actually an incredibly interesting topic.
people much smarter than you designed a legal system with failsafes to every counter point you have made. i would suggest you stop criticizing and talking about a system you clearly don't understand
Because all computers have to use some sort of tangible data to produce a "random" result.
You can see it was based on time in older systems like the NES.
So it was easily manipulated.
If that’s the case then it should follow you believe that trumps legal team should be able to have a hearing in which their evidence can be presented and their witnesses can be cross examined from both sides, and the defendants witnesses can be cross examined from both sides
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire, you just advanced to level 4!