Message from @Recalibar
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Hi From Australia - is Alito hearing the PA case on December 9th a checkmate against Trump?
Well, the safe harbor deadline I don't believe applies to SCOTUS rulings, only state legislatures selecting their electors.
Could be wrong, knowledge on the subject is fuzzy when it comes to details. I think what's going on is they're waiting on the PA legislature to make a move or not before scotus takes the case.
Thank you for your response. I appreciate your input. I regret that you characterize this as a "mind game"... I would like to point out that I asserted Assumptions and Facts. I did not specify which was which, because that was not the point.
Case in point, you assert without backing it up that massive mail-in fraud was a certainty without backing your claim. I believe that it would be nearly impossible to commit coordinated, widespread voter fraud without some traceable artifact. Matt Braynard attempted to find this in his Voter Integrity Project effort. I applauded his efforts, but I think he came up short in proving fraud, but he identified possible indications of fraud and, apparently, has shared that with the FBI, who will hopefully follow up on it. It is important to know the truth one way or another. The think about mail-in voter fraud is that you have to tell them where to send the ballot so you can receive it, fill it out, and send it back. Some people have suggested that rented mailboxes might be used for this purpose, but I know from having rented them in the past that you must provide identification and usually a credit card.
So, I have heard Trump's claim that mail-in voting will be fraudulent and I have heard him assert that no other country does it, but I have not seen anyone provide a reasonable explanation how anyone could pull off massive voter fraud without leaving a massive, easily discernable footprint.
I mean, we've really had little else to work off of than massive, easily discernable footprints to base these allegations on. It's just a matter of if the media wants the public to be aware or not. Doesn't seem to be in their interest.
Sir to state Matt Braynard came up short?.................................. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH9ihoLi1NA
@Recalibar thanks - but can a favorable scotus result from Alito change the PA elector selections once done? Also, is Alito the only SCOTUS representatative? when would the entire SCOTUS bench become involved?
@tomB63, you just advanced to level 1!
Indications of possible fraud and fraud are different.
If Wayne county's 0 registered voter precincts, many places reporting that they had unusually high turnout rates across several thousand counties, hundred thousand or so, massive vote dumps, etc. They're all pretty big footprints, not sure how more true of a scottsman you can be.
@tomB63 I believe they're looking at throwing out some 200,000 votes submitted illegally because of an 11th hour ruling by the state court giving an opinion as late as august on how the mail-in deadline was extended another two days outside of their legal statute. That would mean that the electors would go to Trump, in that case, especially if that were the ruling on the damages. Alito is not the only SCOTUS rep of course, but there are many other court cases that indicate that the final result is changed. If you've seen the allotted heads of circuit courts, but *conservative judges are* all presiding over these swing states in question.
He also had TWO voting systems in the group that wrote that statement. Those were NOT impartial. They never should have been included at all.
I take it you wrote the dissenting opinion? Lmao
@Recalibar, you just advanced to level 2!
I'm not sure about other states...but in NV, they've shown MANY registered voters at places that are not residential addresses.
@DisenchantedTruth corporations are people too.
In which case, my husband and I should have voted another 4 times because we own 4 coporations?
Ffs these alt facts. When will it be enough?
When a TRUE investigation is done.
That was actually a joke.
If the DOJ would do a credible and transparent investigation, I'd be thrilled. Don't see it happening though.
LOL! Sorry. Headache here.
> You're welcome to provide an argument instead of dismissing the conversation, Mr. Marx.
@Recalibar Thank you.
@Zuluzeit, you just advanced to level 27!
I think there's a lot of opsec going on, honestly.
@Zuluzeit is very intelligent. Don't hurt yourself@Recalibar
Was that before the election, during the election, and after the election?
3) Again... Please provide any documentation of how massive mail-in fraud could be pulled off.
4) I have only heard a couple of anecdotes about perfectly flat ballots. But now you are talking about someone sneaking pre-filled in mail-in ballots and secretly swapping them out with the "real ballots" (this when Trump has signaled to his supporters to vote in person and democrats have shown an overwhelming desire to vote by mail because of fears of CoVid - valid or not). Why take the effort to track down the ballot template to create valid mail-in forgeries and then risk getting caught swapping out ballots at the precinct when in all likelihood the vast majority of those ballots would be for Biden, anyways? Anyone sophisticated enough to pull that off would be smart enough to weigh the risk to reward ratio.
However, there is valid reason why there might be flat ballots. If the ballot is damaged while extracting it from the envelope or gets damaged/jammed in the tabulation machine, there is a process that requires bi-partisan participants to transfer the voter's intended choices onto a new ballot. That does happen and they typically set aside these ballots until later in the process when they can all be done at the same time in order to not slow things down.
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@DisenchantedTruth
Regarding the contractor video who "blew the whistle" - I looked up the company he said he worked for on LinkedIn - there did not appear to be anyone listed that looked like him - there were only 15 employees listed. That's not definitive, but they did not appear to be a large outfit. Even so, he did not attest to anything other than violating the trust of the people who had hired him. He did not have the data he claimed to have, it was not used to create fake ballots, and he was not aware of anyone else who had violated his employers trust the way he did. I am not sure what that video is proof of unless you are pre-disposed to believe every unsubstantiated assertion of malfeasance of proof of some broader conspiracy to commit voter fraud. It's kind of the point I am trying to make.
Regarding Ramsland... I find him to be a disgruntled former Congressman who lost a race he expected to win and has been on a crusade against Dominion since. This is the same guy who's research Powell presented in a case in MI that claimed that many counties has reported more votes than voters - in a court filing. Only later to find out that he had mixed up MN with MI and failed to realize that as the reason that the populations were off.
I certainly hope so. There are too many data anomalies for me to completely dismiss the idea of fraud. Yes, I'm one of those who pulled data and looked. I'm no expert and not qualified to determine anything from data alone....but 4 precincts in Philadelphia reporting the exact same ratio of 18 votes Biden to 1 vote trump on EVERY upload from 7 an to 4 pm on day is enough to make me believe it was a computer setting a ratio. Can you imagine what the chances are of that happening?
@DisenchantedTruth Especially if this was an event which implicates more than a few bad actors as seems to be the case of the video. The likelihood that the DOJ is investigating facebook for more than visa hiring reasons right now seems plausable enough for me to consider, especially in light of increasing attempts on censorship of right/moderate voices. Currently sec. 203 is shielding them from a lot of litigation.
@busillis https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-files-lawsuit-against-facebook-discriminating-against-us-workers Dec. 3rd
@TaLoN132 https://www.waynecounty.com/documents/clerk/nov20_votestats.pdf is just one such footprint I mentioned before. Page 93 is when precincts report that a total of 0 registered voters added some total of 100,000 votes to the total for Wayne county. Someone's not doing their job.
Everyone keeps asking why didn’t Trump get ahead of the curve if he knew there would be voter fraud? It still remains to be seen whether he did or didn’t. IMO-To what extent was he willing to go through remains to be seen also. I believe we are still getting the trickle.
Freedom of Information Act all election information system logs in suspect counties and prove it with the data
@Repeat That's what I'm thinking, too. OPSEC's important if this were actually as big as is alleged. I do recognize that I tread into conspiracy theory when I allege such things, so, grain of salt.
It could be like a mosaic where you have to step back to see the whole picture.
I don’t believe any of us are privy to that info because we would lose our security clearance if we were here discussing it.
Or arrested 🤣