Message from @Recalibar
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does anyone have a link for the specific case or court docs?
I found this article very informative and it makes sense to me. The author seems legit by his bio page, but that's the extent of what I know: https://www.justsecurity.org/73274/no-state-legislatures-cannot-overrule-the-popular-vote/
Would like this as well.
Saved for later reading
@MatiLuc @JonasRobert @james j I posed a thought experiment and people have been sharing their ideas. I have enjoyed the resulting conversation - I hope they have. If you are interested, it is here: https://discordapp.com/channels/760945067107680286/771201221145919499/784832307219136612
Imo, I think the situation is different when the state legislators are sufficiently convinced of wrongdoing. That's more or less what Guliani is currently doing by lobbying the legislatures.
@Recalibar, you just advanced to level 6!
I have been working from home for a long time. I didn't realize how much I missed having adult conversations.
I'll second @DisenchantedTruth 's take, great points made.
Where are the affidavits regarding the GA counting scandal? The ones claiming they were told to leave?
I can try to find them, give me a bit.
Oh thank you. I was looking myself.
I like it... I used to spend 3-4 hours a day on the road - sometimes more depending on meetings and traffic. SoCal is so spread out.
For years, as spent as much time in my car as I did with my (awake) kids - on the days I went into the office.
DedKraken shared this link last night, in case anyone missed it: https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/12/fact-check-video-from-ga-does-not-show-suitcases-filled-with-ballots-pulled-from-under-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html
I don't mind working away from home, i just hate driving around...each time i start and stop i loose something or fear that i will.
Just checked Kelli Ward's Twitter. Surprised she hasn't mentioned it.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18694655/pearson-v-kemp/ I believe these are the ones referenced.
I have nothing to link you to....but a court ordered a small sample 100 ballots be verified. 3% of those were duplicated in error. So a larger sample was ordered 2500 ballot. If you look in the comments, that 11% seems to be signature match issues...and 0.5% of the ballots were duplicated in error.
Any word on if they all go one direction?
Ward released a press statement that they only got through half the stack anyway, before the court ordered ruling to continue, if I remember correctly.
I know nothing more. I'm sorry!
I read that article the day this all cam out. While it does demonstrate it is not as bad as we initially thought I have problems with what was said. It claims that the legal “bins” are not suitcases. That was the terminology utilized at the center not meant to be taken as literal suitcases. As you can see there are actually two angles on the table, one of both sides. The article claimed that they were actually not under the table but “next to it on the floor”. The issue is you can confirm this from the second angle. They are clearly not next to the table. The last thing that is a problem is they claimed the watchers were not sent home however that doesn’t match their independent testimony and there has been no audio proof or counter affidavits I have seen to back up a claim. So I personally rate that article as misleading.
It helps that TWO news sources also posted when they were sent out at 10:30 and told that counting would resume the next day.
Only got through half of which stack? The 100 or the 2500?
The 2500, one moment...
Its a tough situation. Everyone wants it to be black and white but this could have all be avoided if they were allowed to walk around.
It's hard to watch that video and not think "Damn, she just finessed a whole state!"
In other news....Smartmatic's head will be stepping up to the Head of Open Society Foundations...which is Soros play place.
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/newsroom/patrick-gaspard-to-step-down-as-head-of-open-society-foundations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRTtMCbYIGo at like 30 in
brb restarting my slow af pc
ok!
Yeah same conclusion these guys came to and they should know, they lost their argument before the Supreme Court. https://www.lawfareblog.com/state-legislatures-cant-ignore-popular-vote-appointing-electors
I've wanted to see that, too. The reporting on this has been dishonest in the RWM. AZ had a total of 52,897 duplicated ballots - this is when ballot won't scan for some reason - like they got damaged when extracting from the envelope or was jammed or for whatever reason. A hand copy of the votes is made with reps of both parties present (in most states) to ensure that the duplicated ballot reflects the original damaged ballot. There must be a ballot ID that lets them match up the ballots. In any case, a sample of 100 of them indicated a 2-3% error rate. They reportedly did another sample of 1600 and there was a discrepancy in 9 ballots that effected both candidates. They are going to do another audit of 2500 per the court, but they are seeing the numbers that would have any effect on the election. Here's a fairly detailed article on it: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/03/arizona-republican-party-lawsuit-overturn-election-results-goes-trial/3794819001/
Thanks! I hadn't seen that video at all.
Yep! I keep tabs on her website releases. https://azgop.com/update
The problem is that these cases will be different enough to warrant their own precedent. All they would have to do is demonstrate how the popular vote has not been determined due massive irregularities and this is the purpose of the article 2 remedy in contrast to to simply telling citizens to “kick rocks” like that case was.
@Corndog, you just advanced to level 1!