Without a shut down on all international flights and locking down the border from Canada and Mexico from the beginning, it's hard to say how much of this could have been avoided.

If you're certain that the media companies are aiding and abetting foreign enemies by rigging the election, according to Trump's EO, he apparently has the power to seize their finances and send it to the treasury.

Do you have that posted somewhere?

Ubi and legalized all drugs..??? Would this lead to a reduction in useless eaters?

https://i.imgur.com/dB7tsAy.mp4 @DisenchantedTruth Here you go, some "right wing" talking points.

Except, he did... It's on tape. Thanks to Woodward. Trump is on tape describing the exact characteristics that we now know to be true to Bob Woodward at the end of January - around the time he enacted the travel ban, because he knew what was going on.

You'll need to open it for audio.

It was here earlier than we all knew https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-likely-in-u-s-in-mid-december-2019-cdc-scientists-report-11606782449

I can't hear it for some reason

Each event happens in a vacuum current events aren't supposed to be judged based off of past events.

Except they've now found antibodies in blood samples from last October or so....it was here LONG before anyone knew it.

I am not following you...

I read something about a Chinese whistleblower who had intel on covid19 during December was found to have "committed suicide" before he could share the news outside the county.

It was already going around in October 2019 in the US@DisenchantedTruth

Oh! Apologies.

September 2019 in Italy https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-11-17/COVID-19-was-spreading-in-Italy-by-September-2019-study-indicates-VuSqUttP8s/index.html

I mean that the people that came into the US after the travel ban from China were not quarantined and not followed up on.

Wasn't there also a redacted study from Johns Hopkins on how covid death numbers may have been inflated?

Trump putting Chinese travelers and internment camps?

either the study was redacted or the news article on it, can't remember

We usually let states handle this.

The outrage would be deafening

Because yeah.

Just imagine, "Trump puts european kids in cages" as the next headline.

Honestly, even in retrospect, a lot of what happened does feel unavoidable to an extent.

I imagine two weeks after that "We're all gunna die because Trump didn't do enough!!"

we covered that in depth before ... there was good reason it was retracted

Don't I wish I had any kind of proof....but we all have plenty of proof of bias by all media...dividing the heck out of Americans. I post a Breightbart article - factual, mind you - and my left wing friends will go nuts, contradicting it with a CNN article that isn't necessarily contradicting it....it's just leaving the "right-wing" facts out, just like the Breightbart article leaves the "left-wing" facts put....

Our media is who has polarized our country.

Taiwan (not a member of WHO) shutdown its borders in December. Not sure why the US & U.K. couldn’t.

for what reason?

Because they listened to the WHO.

Yes, I read that, but it was found HERE in the US in Oct if I remember. Let me go look. I posted it somewhere.

We didn’t listen to anybody.

Which still, half the people listen to the WHO.

There is a theory I read about that said that there might have been a relatively recent cold virus (also corona) that made its rounds a while back, which was similar enough to CoVid that the immunity from that cold virus might be enough to fight off CoVid. The thinking is that it might explain why there are asymptomatic carriers.

@AdamS Yes, we did.

The more authoritarian us leftists love the mask...

Bingo ... this virus is nobody's fault and we got to stop blaming everyone as if it's their fault they got or their fault someone else got it

Loving the submission of the people.

I think that's really what the hush-hush is about, in all honesty. If you wanna go into conspiracyland, well https://merrileebeazley.org/situation-update-dec-3rd-trump-invokes-foreign-interference-provision-of-his-2018-executive-order-authorizing-military-response-to-cyber-warfare-see-nspm-13/

We in the U.K. listened never followed any of the guidance. As far as I can tell the same in the US, all states had different advice. Trump didn’t take it seriously & Boris was shaking hands with Covid patients 🤦‍♂️