Message from @Dreadnaught

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2020-12-08 19:00:12 UTC  

Questions about the constitutionality of state laws are generally left to the State's SC - it's a stretch to think that this is a Federal issue. We'll see, though. I'm not sure that Kelly made his case properly. His lawyers did not make a federal claim in the original complaint. They tried to back there way into it. It could be dismissed on that alone.

2020-12-08 19:00:14 UTC  

Maybe we could make it unconstitutional and they could still choose their electors according to the American voters' votes they received and counted. Sound good?

2020-12-08 19:00:19 UTC  

Yes and the Legislature determined it was going to be Part of their State Constitution and put it up to a Referendum for the Voters. Under that construction the Voters have to Vote to amend the State Constitution.

2020-12-08 19:00:47 UTC  

> @TaLoN132 If we had a contract we agreed on ur ok with me changing that contract without ur knowledge?
@♤amanda Excellent point. That's exactly what the people who voted by mail will ask.

2020-12-08 19:01:10 UTC  

This is not the same... This is PA lawmakers trying to work within their own framework.

2020-12-08 19:01:43 UTC  

When you try to yank the rug out from under them after they voted in good faith.

2020-12-08 19:02:02 UTC  

@TaLoN132 i get that but my union heads don't get to changed the rules for us without us voting on the change.

2020-12-08 19:02:19 UTC  

But the issue is the PA constitution is very specific as to who can vote and how.
They started the process to amend the constitution and then abandoned it because they didn't have enough time.
So they knew their law was going to break their constitution and they passed it any way.

2020-12-08 19:02:24 UTC  

The Contract was Illegal.

2020-12-08 19:02:46 UTC  

Doesn't matter. They now know the will of the voters.

2020-12-08 19:03:16 UTC  

The people have spoken. Eat it.

2020-12-08 19:03:40 UTC  

What's more insulting is that they passed the laws, they refused to rule on them or correct them, then they try to blame the SC for thinking about holding them accountable.

2020-12-08 19:03:51 UTC  

It's like a bank robber blaming the bank.

2020-12-08 19:04:14 UTC  

You made the rule that stealing money was illegal.

2020-12-08 19:04:20 UTC  

How DARE you!

2020-12-08 19:04:39 UTC  

It is a representative democracy. The voters elected their representatives to make laws. That's what they did.

2020-12-08 19:05:27 UTC  

That's incredibly daft. You do understand how the constitution works, right?

2020-12-08 19:05:27 UTC  

And then penalizing the people who used the bank by taking their money. Good plan.

2020-12-08 19:05:32 UTC  

It's a dishonest time to try and change the rules citizens have to follow to vote

2020-12-08 19:05:49 UTC  

@Dreadnaught unless they established the Intent of the Robber. It's okay. The will of the Robber has Spoken!....lol

2020-12-08 19:05:52 UTC  

When was that?

2020-12-08 19:06:02 UTC  

After the fact? Yeah that doesn't sound like a good time to do that.

2020-12-08 19:06:14 UTC  

Now after millions of votes on the line

2020-12-08 19:06:18 UTC  

Idk. Maybe it's cool.

2020-12-08 19:06:40 UTC  

As you guys stated before, it's up to the state to establish those rules within their own framework. They didn't follow their own framework.

2020-12-08 19:06:45 UTC  

@TaLoN132 id have to disagree. We are a constitutionally republic. The elected officials don't get to make what ever rule they want. It has to be within the constitution.

2020-12-08 19:06:47 UTC  

They appear to have gone to great lengths to make a distinction between Mail-in and Absentee in an effort to side-step the constitutional concerns. The very people who now want to call it unconstitutional - and who would be fighting to say that it is constitutional, if Trump had won.

2020-12-08 19:07:17 UTC  

'I'm fine with overruling American votes.' ~ The Radical Right

2020-12-08 19:07:25 UTC  

You do realize that Kelly won his election and if this suit is successful, he will lose, right?

2020-12-08 19:08:08 UTC  

The purpose of election laws isnt to setup a system see how you did in the election then try to roll it back to win against the will of the people. This should be obvious

2020-12-08 19:08:23 UTC  

"I'm fine with invalidating the entire election to keep people from having to vote despite Fauci saying it's safe" - Democrats (who are all radical)

2020-12-08 19:08:25 UTC  

Not stealing from PA voters today, pal. Guess again.

2020-12-08 19:08:43 UTC  

Possibly... If that was what happened. Fortunately, that's not an accurate description of what transpired.

2020-12-08 19:09:33 UTC  

Which Republicans, obviously, believed they had done... until their guy didn't win.

2020-12-08 19:10:07 UTC  

Typical radical right belligerent, obnoxious hypocrisy.

2020-12-08 19:10:25 UTC  

Not this time.

2020-12-08 19:10:41 UTC  

Actually, you can say that with the Texas suit, it kind of nullifies the difference between who created the law. Pennsylvanians created an illegal law.

2020-12-08 19:10:42 UTC  

@Dreadnaught, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-12-08 19:12:23 UTC  

Created an illegal law 😂

2020-12-08 19:12:34 UTC  

They should correct that procedural error before 2022.

2020-12-08 19:13:03 UTC  

Why does Texas think they have a say in other states Constitutions blatant violation