@{CAP}Radeon That would be murder, if it is the mRNA

Indeed

Everyone will bend to the will of the dictates of their elected officials.

Buy up the ammo

already did

even if im not US 😄

I expected a dry up in feb.

I will die before someone injects me with potentially harmful compounds against my will or while under duress!

Agreed.

Me three.

All it takes is one martyr!

No such discussion here, luckily.

People are no longer capable of making informed decisions for themselves...

I am expecting it, though.

@TaLoN132 the main issue i have with that is that the same people that are being accused of running a fraudulent election are the ones that are tasked with auditing it to a large extent. Also I am not sure that the claims are baseless.

@busillis I can, and I do!

The people who need the vaccine the most are old people. After one dies of natural causes everyone will blame the vaccine. Makes no difference to me cuz im not that vulnerable. Also old people won’t be waging any war

Its my job to protect patients, so I will have no choice.

I will have to die on that hill.

@Phil that’s the conspiracy that everyone is involved and everyone is bad (except for trump and his people) which is a crazy notion

@james j that’s the problem, it will kill them!

Trust in the decisions of your bureaucracy and force by your elected officials, obey the social contract and don't forget about grandmama and Grandpa, you don't want to have their deaths on your conscience.

@busillis my grandma and grandpa are hardasses! They’ve told us over and over “I’m 82 years old, if it’s my time, it’s my time!”

@{CAP}Radeon no I’m saying if someone is 78 and they die of natural causes like some moths later, the conspiracy people will blame the vaccine over natural causes because they are already pre disposed to believing that.

Grandma and Grandpa are clearly not capable of making rational decisions therefore the state look after their best interests.

I’ve met some “with it” old people

reverse flynn effects sugest grandma and grandpa are the most intelligent people around. @busillis

But definitely not as “with it” as they used to be

As is natural

@busillis that nyc. Article is misleading

I'm not feeling that mode right now, I'm thinking more as if I'm chairman Mao.

Not one thing that happened after 3am on Nov 3rd doesn't raise my suspicion and yours should be up as well. Investigate it, interrogate those responsible for irregularities and review all information under oath and then either act on it or we can all agree it was messy but legit. Doubt you could convince me that leftiest didn't try to cheat. Sounds like they shouted down any Trump support and sent them out of the room as fast as possible, created fraudulent excuses and lied to get them to leave.

@Vegas.James, you just advanced to level 2!

@Vegas.James what you described was not only not a irregularity but expected as many states aren’t allowed to count mail in votes until the close of day.

That's where the inverted totalitarian piece comes in, the state doesn't have to mandate a thing if the corporations make it mandatory.

No wrong thinkers on social media platforms

They kicked out people being disruptive and yelling “stop the count” you aren’t allowed to just interfere with the counting and processing process. @Vegas.James

First, there are processes in place with checks and balances. When risk limiting audits are done, they randomly select enough lots to be recounted by hand. This alone gives 99.9% certainty that the ballots cast match the tabulations. Canvasses are done to ensure that the number of ballots cast - match the number of ballots counted/tabulated. These numbers are maintained at the precinct level. Each precinct has ballots with different down ballot races. The poll workers are not necessarily the ones that do the tabulating.

By baseless, I mean that they have not presented any evidence that has stood up under scrutiny. Not all cases were dismissed without considering the evidence. I like to steer people to look at the NV case, because it was live-streamed and you can see just how the Trump campaign's evidence held up.

I'm sure the Democrats in the room were super friendly and sounds like quite rude. After a few tense hours they were likely at each other's throat. Where is the cheating with Trump votes. Odd none of that happened.

They weren’t yelling and screaming in a rage. Also there were official republican watchers that were always present @Vegas.James

Trump has a good shot