Message from @Althea
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whats his name?
real name
You get the irony in this statement, right?
Powell pretended his name had to be kept hidden for his protection
@Dedkraken it was probably one of them
@MatiLuc Perception is almost as good as Solid Evidence if you are dealing with a short timetable and a limited audience?
He was in the NV tragedy though
True of all corporate media. They make a product to attract eyeballs/ears.
Yes talking alot.. and no proof
Depends on your objective?
A Propaganda War is not always fought with Facts.
There are several stories that indicate that election officials planned to and believed that counting was continuing. It was a large operation and people were working all over. But the video and the circumstances are troubling if the assumption is malfeasance, which is the implication made by the Trump campaign. In the presentation last week, they showed the cases being pulled out after 10:30PM and they showed the table being set up in the morning around 8AM. They did not find or show when those cases were placed under the table in the intervening 14 hours.
It has been more than a week since the "bombshell" video was released, but there has been no follow-up regarding how the cases got there. I figured we'd see footage of someone yelling at everyone to look out the window while stealthy nefarious people quickly and silently brought these suitcases from the side door and put them under the table. The absence of such a video given that there has been plenty of time to review the footage tells me that it likely that those cases were filled with naked ballots during the day under the watchful eye of Republican observers. As the footage shows these election workers taking those ballots and scanning them (tabulation occurs elsewhere in the process at a different location), these are valid, legal votes that were scanned in full view of surveillance video and monitored as required by law.
Strict Liability.....
The scanning must be in the presence of observers. There was at least an hour where they were not observed.
@Althea, you just advanced to level 1!
You keep saying that, but SCOTUS ruled in the South Carolina case that citizens who voted in good faith, even if it was not technical legal, should not be disenfranchised because of the inappropriate actions of election officials (I'm paraphrasing) by allowing mail-in votes that did not have witness signatures to be counted after it was found that South Carolina officials had inappropriately relaxed that requirement.
Personally I disagree that the republican observers could see anything placed as they were with the news media...
@William Dinan yes good point
At that stage of the process, they are just there to witness the ballots being separated from envelopes and the scanned for eventual tabulation (which occurred at another location).
Everyone call their AG offices and complain that Texas engaged in rampant voter suppression and it is somehow your business. Any claims will do. You can put them in hollow affidavits that won't ever be subject to conditions of perjury.
The scanning happened in the same room but the room was curved so that the observers could not really observe them. Plus I think the idea of an observer was to make sure that the law was being followed, i.e., signature matching. How can you see that from 20' away???
This legalizes GOP voter fraud in 2024. Good luck.
Right, this has been a “How-to” for stealing an election. 😂
> This legalizes GOP voter fraud in 2024. Good luck.
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire Nah. We'll have competent executives who have 4 years to fix it.
GOP will never be as good at corruption of the voting process. The dems have been chipping at safeguards for years.
Lol that is hilarious.
What fraud? These are eligible voters that are casting in good faith ballots that they believe to be legally cast votes, because their elected officials (on both sides of the aisle in most cases and the state SC in the case of PA) told them that they were. If there was any provable fraud, they could bring those cases to the appropriate authorities and arrests would be rightfully made. Those active cases would be proof of fraud that law enforcement believed merited prosecution.
Again, so much faith in humanity.
We need term limits for all politicians.
@Althea, you just advanced to level 2!
Or... It has been a "How-to" in failing at an attempt to steal an election - which is way more likely given facts and circumstances.
I hope someday I too can have that much faith that people are good and trustworthy.
It's not faith... It's pragmatism. I look at this as a "What is a more likely narrative if I assume both sides were correct?" exercise in probability.
The GOP was pretty effective at shutting down Ron Paul by falsely declaring he didn’t win Iowa and the newsletters. Never underestimate the GOP and their capacity for evil.
Evil. Really....
Once trump is out, the bill Kristols and Karl roves will move back in
Yes. Joe Biden and his crime family are evil.
To be fair, we have no way of knowing whether Trump suspected there would be fraud. So it's not right to blame him for sitting on his hands until after the fact.
But we can see the GOP scam a mile away and it will be stopped, just like the coup that is failing before our eyes.
Tell me Karl rove doesn’t have the capacity to wheel in ballots overnight to cover a margin 😂
Is the Glass Half Full or Half Empty? Or is it the Point of no Return? Depends on the original state of your measurement or your perspective?