Even if one party benefits more than the other

As long as everyone agrees to the trade, it's not theft

@The Mongler and if I manipulate you into it?

what then?

Wait taxes is a form of trade @The Mongler

On the contrary, if someone tries to take it away I’ll do what needs to be done. I don’t seek out the fight.

A form of involuntary trade, which is another way of saying theft

Then I misunderstood who your prior post was directed at?

@The Mongler so if I manipulate you to buy something you dont need, is that theft?

or trade?

So is working. If the choice is starving and dying vs working, I wouldn’t call that choice. Much like pay your taxes or be jailed @The Mongler

It’s manipulation...

I don't know, how was I manipulated

Or Salesmanship?

@The Mongler by brainwashing

Marketing

Salesmanship is a form of manipulation.

Is a form of brainwashing

Marketing is a form of manipulation.

weird being lectured about manipulation by a commie

How is it the employers fault that you face starvation? That's a consequence implemented by nature. Going to jail or being shot by the police is a consequence implemented by people, not nature

which cant exist without total control of speech

@The Mongler ?

You have been manipulated by the right to think you aren’t being manipulated @ImNotGas

How about Courtship or Dating?

I want to know if brainwashing someone to buy something they dont need is trade or theft.

@The Mongler no the point is from the workers point of view it isn’t really a choice, because it is dependent on nature. Like eating and surviving

Depends whether or not you’re honorable and sincere in your efforts.

I have found no one who can answer properly.

Your argument is like saying it's okay to rob people because if you don't you might starve. The truth is you have other options, like finding a job, or starting your own business, or asking for charity. The fact that nature requires you to gather resources to survive doesn't justify forcing people to give you those resources

@The Mongler we are talking about jobs

@The Mongler I want to know if brainwashing someone to buy something they dont need is trade or theft.

And workers @The Mongler

No such thing as an Honest Salesperson?

It’s really hard to say, I feel like it could be both?

When their living depends on selling?? No..

@{CAP}Radeon then you have to oppose commericals as well as tax, yes?

Fuck yeah!

at least the effective commercials.

I hate commercials!!!

but you need a state to ban the commercials.