Message from @The Mongler
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or trade?
So is working. If the choice is starving and dying vs working, I wouldn’t call that choice. Much like pay your taxes or be jailed @The Mongler
It’s manipulation...
I don't know, how was I manipulated
Or Salesmanship?
@The Mongler by brainwashing
Marketing
Salesmanship is a form of manipulation.
Is a form of brainwashing
Marketing is a form of manipulation.
weird being lectured about manipulation by a commie
How is it the employers fault that you face starvation? That's a consequence implemented by nature. Going to jail or being shot by the police is a consequence implemented by people, not nature
which cant exist without total control of speech
You have been manipulated by the right to think you aren’t being manipulated @ImNotGas
How about Courtship or Dating?
I want to know if brainwashing someone to buy something they dont need is trade or theft.
@The Mongler no the point is from the workers point of view it isn’t really a choice, because it is dependent on nature. Like eating and surviving
Depends whether or not you’re honorable and sincere in your efforts.
I have found no one who can answer properly.
Your argument is like saying it's okay to rob people because if you don't you might starve. The truth is you have other options, like finding a job, or starting your own business, or asking for charity. The fact that nature requires you to gather resources to survive doesn't justify forcing people to give you those resources
@The Mongler we are talking about jobs
@The Mongler I want to know if brainwashing someone to buy something they dont need is trade or theft.
And workers @The Mongler
No such thing as an Honest Salesperson?
It’s really hard to say, I feel like it could be both?
When their living depends on selling?? No..
@{CAP}Radeon then you have to oppose commericals as well as tax, yes?
Fuck yeah!
at least the effective commercials.
I hate commercials!!!
but you need a state to ban the commercials.
and the state needs taxes.
This model doesnt seem very thought through.....
An honest Trash Collector?
@The Mongler and owners stealing from workers, legally
Do Owners create Workers or the other way around?
yes
Workers provide for the owner @William Dinan
But their living depends on it?