"Kicking in your door and shooting you if you respond thinking someone is breaking into your house"

@DeathRhodes666 also have you read the GOP bill v the democrats bill. The gop bill gave most of the money to corporations. The dem bill went directly to the people and small businesses. It had provisions for ppe and testing. It had money that went to non profits that were employing people and needed that money. You should read both bills me compare. I am aware of the conservative talking point. However like most things they say it is highly misleading and inaccurate.

Well, if no one announces their presence or shows justification to enter your home then you are typically well within your rights to self-defense to stop those intruders. there are self-defense laws and Castle Doctrine laws that allow you to do so. And if the intruders happen to be cops who illegally perform such actions or perform actions that are justified in responding with gunfire to defend yourself, then they fooked up and should suffer any consequence stemming form their actions.

@DeathRhodes666 of course it outdated. It makes no consideration for a pandemic become the fore fathers never considered it

It’s not one magical document. People act like there Isn’t a pandemic @DeathRhodes666

Do you see ANY practical use for No Knock Warrants?

Nuh-uh, I don't even think it should be legal for cops to do this if they follow the rules. You're talking about qualified immunity, which is something we may just vehemently disagree with.

Yeah this bill recently passed is ridiculous and directed towards a lot of the wrong areas (mainly towards big business and not small business and the people). This one is 6k pages right? Might take me a while to read it

@DeathRhodes666 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/23/house-democrats-stimulus-senate-coronavirus-145388

None which warrant the use of them. It's too abhorrent an idea to me.

@DeathRhodes666 no I am talking about the one in March

Qualified Immunity needs to go. The first time i learned of it i came to that conclusion. Why it exists in the first place idk. Eliminating that is something I'm entirely behind

That if left up to the dems would have been something that would have been more than just a one time payment @DeathRhodes666

That's the one that gave us $1200 right?

So don't use the justification of 'if the police legally did this', because that's basically appealing to qualified immunity.

Only 1200 to people and much more to non vulnerable corporations due to the GOP @DeathRhodes666

I'm thinking some misinterpretation happened somewhere I'm unaware of.

To save a Life seems like a good reason to me. I wish I was so sure and share your opinion.

Sure, and how many others do you extinguish in the process?

I'm not for a continuous payment like that, especially in a semi-closed economy, as that only destroys the strength of the dollar and severely damages our economy. But, the majority of that stimulus should've been directed towards people and businesses that truly need it. Not major corps or anything of that nature.

Depends on the Value placed upon Victims? That may be a starting point? I don't know.

I mean, 35% of all dollars in circulation were printed this past year. That's not a very good statistic

It’s money that we have it’s not printed money. @DeathRhodes666 also if we can fund our GOP led wars and bailing out corporations we can affords monthly payments. Just like every other first world nation

We're also not usually talking about hostage situations.

Which make up a tiny percentage of no-knock warrants.

Actually, not even sure they're considered a no-knock warrant.

As they're usually active hostage situations.

I did say "Any" and your response was "none". I just working with those two facts right now.

How commonly do you think people respond to someone kicking down their door/breaking their windows by grabbing a gun? Fairly common right?

Be fair, both Dem and Gop-led wars/conflicts and corporation bailouts. The two parties are just two sides of the same coin working towards their goal of benefiting themselves. And it's not money we have either, more like money borrowed from future generations. The debt has blown up this past year due to that borrowing of future, non-existent money. I said it earlier but nearly 35% of the money in circulation today was printed this past year as well. A continuous paycheck without opening up the economy would've only exacerbated this financial situation.

@DeathRhodes666, you just advanced to level 7!

Depends on common and the percentage of Gun owners. I would have to do Research and look around Data. Absent of that would only be a Gut Feeling on my part.

44% have a gun in their household.

US-wide.

12 % have a bread maker

@DeathRhodes666 that’s every year. We can deal with cutting down war expenses after the pandemic. Now is not the time to be stingy with the budget. Especially how fast and loose we have been over the past several decades. Next year pull back troop.

after the pandemic?

When you're talking about the kinds of people that usually get their doors kicked in? Much higher a %.

@james j you mean in 2026?

2024 realistically Yang 2024 @Doc