Message from @Maw

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2020-12-21 22:17:46 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666 the constitution doesn’t make provisions for a pandemic. It’s a outdated document. Those protests were directed at local governments and federal provisions. Trump supports police unions which is in direct conflict to police reform. Thus shutting the door. Very poor leadership when it comes to a problem that needs to be addressed. We had similar instances under Obama. He made some provisions. He released the pressure valve and communicated that he would take some steps. He advocated for body cams. The tone trump set played a huge role in the riots

2020-12-21 22:17:55 UTC  

Sure, you can label it that way if you want.

2020-12-21 22:18:15 UTC  

I want some clarification before I continue. Reduce confusion and such'

2020-12-21 22:18:36 UTC  

California Gov. Gavin Newsom

2020-12-21 22:18:48 UTC  

quarantined

2020-12-21 22:18:54 UTC  

I don't think cops should be able to kick down your door and shoot you if you respond to someone busting down your door with a gun pointed at them.

2020-12-21 22:22:13 UTC  

The constitution isn't outdated first off because it presents and describes methods to alter it via amendments. Whether people and/or states take those steps falls onto their respective residents and is nowhere near indicative of the founding document as being outdated.
To be in favor of unions is not relative to preventing reform of the union or what the union represents. using my own experience with unions and my observations from my mom's time as a USW Steward, unions can be supported by members yet also undergo change that benefits everyone (not just their members). She had a direct hand in removing the corrupt union officials in her local to which everyone in the company benefited.

2020-12-21 22:22:18 UTC  

If it was only that simple.

2020-12-21 22:23:07 UTC  

Clearly I'm referring to no-knock warrants, and I want police to have more of a responsibility to the public that they have authority over.

2020-12-21 22:23:20 UTC  

They should be expected to perform above average in these situations.

2020-12-21 22:23:28 UTC  

It's exactly what they're trained to do.

2020-12-21 22:23:33 UTC  

You're referring to the raid incident where the suspect's girlfriend was shot and killed after the suspect, with a lawfully owned firearm, fired at intruders who turned out to be cops (can't remember the names)?

2020-12-21 22:23:52 UTC  

No, I'm referring to the comment I made specifically, and nothing else.

2020-12-21 22:24:59 UTC  

So Sorry. It was not Clear to me. I must have missed a previous Post of Yours putting that statement into context?

2020-12-21 22:25:34 UTC  

"Kicking in your door and shooting you if you respond thinking someone is breaking into your house"

2020-12-21 22:26:29 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666 also have you read the GOP bill v the democrats bill. The gop bill gave most of the money to corporations. The dem bill went directly to the people and small businesses. It had provisions for ppe and testing. It had money that went to non profits that were employing people and needed that money. You should read both bills me compare. I am aware of the conservative talking point. However like most things they say it is highly misleading and inaccurate.

2020-12-21 22:26:57 UTC  

Well, if no one announces their presence or shows justification to enter your home then you are typically well within your rights to self-defense to stop those intruders. there are self-defense laws and Castle Doctrine laws that allow you to do so. And if the intruders happen to be cops who illegally perform such actions or perform actions that are justified in responding with gunfire to defend yourself, then they fooked up and should suffer any consequence stemming form their actions.

2020-12-21 22:27:07 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666 of course it outdated. It makes no consideration for a pandemic become the fore fathers never considered it

2020-12-21 22:27:28 UTC  

It’s not one magical document. People act like there Isn’t a pandemic @DeathRhodes666

2020-12-21 22:27:42 UTC  

Do you see ANY practical use for No Knock Warrants?

2020-12-21 22:27:46 UTC  

Nuh-uh, I don't even think it should be legal for cops to do this if they follow the rules. You're talking about qualified immunity, which is something we may just vehemently disagree with.

2020-12-21 22:27:58 UTC  

Yeah this bill recently passed is ridiculous and directed towards a lot of the wrong areas (mainly towards big business and not small business and the people). This one is 6k pages right? Might take me a while to read it

2020-12-21 22:28:14 UTC  

None which warrant the use of them. It's too abhorrent an idea to me.

2020-12-21 22:28:20 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666 no I am talking about the one in March

2020-12-21 22:28:48 UTC  

Qualified Immunity needs to go. The first time i learned of it i came to that conclusion. Why it exists in the first place idk. Eliminating that is something I'm entirely behind

2020-12-21 22:28:55 UTC  

That if left up to the dems would have been something that would have been more than just a one time payment @DeathRhodes666

2020-12-21 22:29:14 UTC  

That's the one that gave us $1200 right?

2020-12-21 22:29:25 UTC  

So don't use the justification of 'if the police legally did this', because that's basically appealing to qualified immunity.

2020-12-21 22:29:50 UTC  

Only 1200 to people and much more to non vulnerable corporations due to the GOP @DeathRhodes666

2020-12-21 22:29:54 UTC  

I'm thinking some misinterpretation happened somewhere I'm unaware of.

2020-12-21 22:30:34 UTC  

To save a Life seems like a good reason to me. I wish I was so sure and share your opinion.

2020-12-21 22:30:54 UTC  

Sure, and how many others do you extinguish in the process?

2020-12-21 22:31:27 UTC  

I'm not for a continuous payment like that, especially in a semi-closed economy, as that only destroys the strength of the dollar and severely damages our economy. But, the majority of that stimulus should've been directed towards people and businesses that truly need it. Not major corps or anything of that nature.

2020-12-21 22:33:00 UTC  

Depends on the Value placed upon Victims? That may be a starting point? I don't know.

2020-12-21 22:33:07 UTC  

I mean, 35% of all dollars in circulation were printed this past year. That's not a very good statistic

2020-12-21 22:33:10 UTC  

It’s money that we have it’s not printed money. @DeathRhodes666 also if we can fund our GOP led wars and bailing out corporations we can affords monthly payments. Just like every other first world nation

2020-12-21 22:33:15 UTC  

We're also not usually talking about hostage situations.

2020-12-21 22:33:40 UTC  

Which make up a tiny percentage of no-knock warrants.

2020-12-21 22:34:14 UTC  

Actually, not even sure they're considered a no-knock warrant.

2020-12-21 22:34:22 UTC  

As they're usually active hostage situations.