Message from @james j

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2020-12-25 18:28:13 UTC  

Im just using that as an example for laches in general

2020-12-25 18:28:28 UTC  

@The Mongler they were correct that they never finished the process so on a procedural technicality alone they were right. However this was not a fraud case and the remedy they asked for was pure hackery partisanship

2020-12-25 18:28:45 UTC  

Gotcha

2020-12-25 18:29:10 UTC  

@The Mongler they were right to dismiss it on laches , again because they knew about this for a year and had a election under it. They only complained when the lost

2020-12-25 18:29:16 UTC  

So generally when there is a dismissal for laches the merit is sound

2020-12-25 18:29:24 UTC  
2020-12-25 18:31:14 UTC  

They dismissed it in addition to laches @The Mongler that doesn’t mean the merit is sound every time. It’s two different things. In the PA case they were technically right but that does mean this would hold true for every laches case. Do you see the ridiculousness of their lawsuit? I feel like conservatives will just run with the merits part without the full story of how garbage the lawsuit was

2020-12-25 18:32:38 UTC  

Creating a technicality and not doing anything about it for a year and then asking for a ridiculous remedy will get you thrown out of court every time

2020-12-25 18:34:32 UTC  

Yeah I just feel like if the case was fundamentally flawed the court would dismiss based on the facts/law rather than laches but I dont know a lot about it

2020-12-25 18:35:22 UTC  

No @The Mongler the case for as fundamentally flawed

2020-12-25 18:35:51 UTC  

The district court in PA ruled on the merits and suspended certification and then the SC dismissed for laches without any comments on the merits

2020-12-25 18:36:00 UTC  

You can’t revoke votes because of a issue you caused and had a year to fix, and had a election already prior to the general election under those same conditions @The Mongler

2020-12-25 18:37:09 UTC  

@The Mongler they were correct to do so . Laches fits the case. I know people like Barnes will say different but he basically works for the Trump team and does everything he can to bolster that side

2020-12-25 18:37:37 UTC  

However he is incorrect in this and is intentionally mis leading

2020-12-25 19:00:15 UTC  

@The Mongler here is a better understanding of laches

“statute of limitations is concerned only with the time that has passed. Laches is concerned with the reasonableness of the delay in a particular situation and so is more case-specific and more focused on the equitable conduct of the plaintiff.”

2020-12-25 19:22:31 UTC  

Merry Christmas all... wishing you and your family all the best. Adam.

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2020-12-25 20:13:41 UTC  

That flies in the Face of your Standing Argument. How can you file prior to actual suffered Damages?

2020-12-25 20:14:32 UTC  

This is about laches

2020-12-25 20:14:40 UTC  

"Ripeness "?

2020-12-25 20:14:56 UTC  

It wasn’t about the injury it was about a incomplete process

2020-12-25 20:15:15 UTC  

They kept repeating that it wasn’t about the fact they lost

2020-12-25 20:15:16 UTC  

Had a Year to Fix?

2020-12-25 20:15:28 UTC  

Had a year to address

2020-12-25 20:15:41 UTC  

Are people still not understanding this very basic thing

2020-12-25 20:16:07 UTC  

Trump was not in prior Elections or was there Electors.

2020-12-25 20:16:22 UTC  

This lawsuit was not about trump

2020-12-25 20:16:31 UTC  

It was not about fraud

2020-12-25 20:16:41 UTC  

It was about a legal technicality

2020-12-25 20:17:14 UTC  

You still need to show Damages.

2020-12-25 20:17:30 UTC  

This is not about the Texas case

2020-12-25 20:17:40 UTC  

That was even dumber than the internal PA case

2020-12-25 20:18:29 UTC  

The Texas case was about standing. Which they did not have

2020-12-25 20:20:04 UTC  

We'll have a Merry Christmas. I was just checking my messages. I have more important things to do. Enjoy!

2020-12-25 20:30:18 UTC  

Not true actually, damages don't need to exist in order to file a lawsuit.

2020-12-25 20:30:52 UTC  

See: Preventive injunction.

2020-12-25 21:15:10 UTC  

It seems to me the remedy effects laches but not the merit? Like PA might have merit and be unconstitutional but they are saying throw out millions of votes which also violates the Constitution. If they asked to have to fixed for next time or asked to have it fixed a year ago they'd be fine. But some the the cases they said do not have merit like trying to have state congress override the popular vote because they lost. Still laches but they'd lose the case if it went forward anyways.

2020-12-25 22:03:16 UTC  

Some have merits.

2020-12-25 23:32:02 UTC  

Anyone in here have cell service affected by the ATT transmission building damages in Tenn?

2020-12-25 23:34:03 UTC  

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2020-12-25 23:34:25 UTC  

Some but can't confirm its related

2020-12-25 23:35:47 UTC  

I'm trying to figure out if this person was just riding on the back of the event for internet clout or if this video [now removed] was to be taken seriously.

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