Message from @Philip R
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No. It's just that us Aussies are ahead of you Americans. (By about 20 hours.)
so....your population is generally older than the americans...
Somehow, we've been able to conduct elections for 240 years without a constitutional crisis with a lot less technology, no need for an independent audit, and almost no checks and balances. For the first time in history, we have the ability to have scanned tabulated votes and paper backups that can be used to audit the results with nearly perfect precision. In 2004, 2008, 2012, and 2016 there were voting machines that had no paper backup - meaning that there was no way of verifying that the tabulated totals were accurate... and, yet, we were able to accept consensus results in each of those elections. How is it that one man's paranoid assertions can sow universal doubt in the system for all of his supporters. It doesn't make sense.
I think that technology has allowed us to incrementally make each election more secure - not the opposite. I also think that it is possible that the effort to sow doubt in the outcome of this election has a greater purpose than questioning the validity of Biden's win. It could be that the idea that fair elections scares the hell out of the corporatists that are so heavily invested in maintaining the status quo. Imagine what it means for us to have an absolutely secure election system for the first time. Also look at the effort to repeal s230... The impact of social media coupled with a truly fair election could result in a real threat to the power structure in the US. For the first time ever, it may be possible to run a grass roots campaign with the right candidate that is truly not beholden to corporate interests. I really think it is a real possibility.
Whereas the founders of this country had great convictions. For petty theft, etc.! (It started as a penal colony.)
And wiser!
Yeah, aware of that, but it never really left the commonwealth.
hide the dingos!
So also did the State of Georgia; they also were established as a penal colony.
for perps named George.
I was going to...well...never mind.
to hot
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@Philip R What area of Australia are you from, if you don't mind sharing?
But are they paranoid assertions? How many previous elections had the left refusing to accept that Trump was legitimately the president? And how many had the outright censorship of the social media? And how many had the mainstream media doing the left's bidding?
He is from the part that is south of the equator. 😉
Outer suburb of Melbourne.
Quite possibly the most well-known area of Australia.
I am not sure what you mean? Biden won the election. He got more votes in the Electoral College.
Biden Never won the election, period.
no, geographically
Doc is a jokester.
Sometimes.
Afterall, China has been infiltrating Australia with Leftist programs longer than the US and they are putting a Manchurian candidate on the throne here.
Yes, he got more electoral college votes, but after an enormous amount of election interference and manipulation.
I don't accept that either, but that is the current narrative.
Oh, sorry. Yes, we should have placed the continent elsewhere. But then the U.S. is just across the water, whereas we have a few other countries between us and China!
Biden supposedly won 477 of 3,113 counties. The Biden/Harris ticket supposedly managed to obtain 80,033,996 votes from 477 counties while the Clinton/Caine ticket received 65,844,610 from 487 counties. In 2008, Obama/Biden received 69,498,516 votes from 873 counties. So, Biden/Harris supposedly got 14,189,386 more votes than Clinton/Caine out of 10 less counties, while also getting 10,535,480 more votes than Obama/Biden out of 396 fewer counties.
Correct. Well done.
Bollocks.. I forgot about that 🙈
"outstanding"
I'll wait for this missive to drop.
Mao is back.
I agree on the placement of Australia in the wrong location. If you had any couth at all you should have put it someplace where it snows at Christmas and you don't spend the day surfing. 😉
And you may not be aware of this, but the biggest news media company in America is News Corp - they really are MSM, but for my purposes I call them part of the RWM. We have a very divisive (helped along by Trump) dichotomy of echo chambers MSM (as the right labels them) and the RWM. The information amplified in each chamber is very different. While the MSM may not have reported stories the way that the right wanted them reported, the RWM more than made up for it. The RWM wasn't exactly championing Biden and reporting favorable stories about him. So, the argument that the MSM is so unfair to the right is absolutely hollow.
The "censorship" on Social Media did more to bring light to the stories that they were supposedly trying to suppress. It had no effect except to give the right even more grievances to whine about, but the information received way more attention than it would have otherwise.
Something else that wouldn't happen in Oz (although you could argue that this is the wrong way to go), as we have compulsory voting. So the number of votes will always be close to the number of registered voters.
Ah yes, but then the world would be even more top heavy, and that would be quite destabilising!
top heavy?
oh....you think it is round?