Message from @Philip R

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2021-01-01 04:24:45 UTC  

Fox is part of the right wing echo chamber... To argue otherwise is lunacy.

2021-01-01 04:24:52 UTC  

Newsguard, Media-Bias, Media Matters, etc. - all Leftist.

2021-01-01 04:25:29 UTC  

I haven't watched Fox that much, and my watching of it would not be random samples. I was going on evidence I have seen. I've also heard the left claim here in Oz that the News Ltd-owned Sky New is right wing, and yet it employs both progressives and conservatives, unlike the rest of the media that tends to only employ progressives.

2021-01-01 04:25:56 UTC  

Therefore everything is left.

2021-01-01 04:26:09 UTC  

Sky News is very Fox-like, yes.

2021-01-01 04:27:06 UTC  

> @Maw Yup. That's the whole idea. Defined into fact.

2021-01-01 04:27:30 UTC  

You just think fox is right wing because you're on the marxist fringe of the left

2021-01-01 04:27:48 UTC  

ok

2021-01-01 04:27:49 UTC  

lol

2021-01-01 04:27:52 UTC  

There are two major echo chambers that exist to keep America divided. Trying to assert a news media organization is more or less right or left wing is pointless - they each fall into one chamber or the other. There are extremist on both sides. We are experiencing proof of that tonight.

2021-01-01 04:27:58 UTC  

Lmfao Marxist!

2021-01-01 04:27:59 UTC  

Okay, so what's the distinction between "objectively true" and "factually true"?
As for the scientific method, that is a *method*, not a dogma.

2021-01-01 04:28:00 UTC  

Correct. The Left holds that anything that is not Marxist is Rightwing/Far Right. And Fox, which is centrist, has employees from all sides that are free to express their positions. The other media outlets fire people if they are conservative and keep those they don't know about silenced.

2021-01-01 04:28:30 UTC  

I mean sure fox doesn't think the LTV is a thing so to you they probably seem far right

2021-01-01 04:28:30 UTC  

Nope. @Whithers

2021-01-01 04:28:44 UTC  

No, Fox is centrist and NTD, Newsmax, OANN, and some others are conservative.

2021-01-01 04:28:57 UTC  

A number of former lefties have testified that they lived in a leftist bubble where they were actually unaware of another viewpoint, or at least the rationale for it.

2021-01-01 04:28:58 UTC  

The extremists want to assert their supremacy of being so much more enlightened than everyone else.

2021-01-01 04:28:59 UTC  

Disagree.

2021-01-01 04:30:03 UTC  

And yet I showed you a study that showed that it wasn't.

2021-01-01 04:30:21 UTC  

> Okay, so what's the distinction between "objectively true" and "factually true"?
> As for the scientific method, that is a *method*, not a dogma.
@Philip R You'll get used to the smuggled-in intended pejoratives.

2021-01-01 04:30:31 UTC  

With flawed methodology, as I've pointed out numerous times.

2021-01-01 04:30:42 UTC  

Also you've never even really watched fox news.

2021-01-01 04:30:59 UTC  

Because you say so?

2021-01-01 04:31:00 UTC  

Fox doesn't think owning a business should be punishable by death - they're far right

2021-01-01 04:31:15 UTC  

wat

2021-01-01 04:31:37 UTC  

Pretty sure the claim was right wing.

2021-01-01 04:31:43 UTC  

Stop straw manning.

2021-01-01 04:32:18 UTC  

Profit is not a synonym for theft - far right status confirmed

2021-01-01 04:32:19 UTC  

Scientific method is a method only where it is in practice by those that are scientists by profession instead of scientific as a secular theology. Scientific method is a practice by professional scientists and a religious right by religious scientists.

What is factually true is something about reality observed and recorded by multiple witnesses as a reliable and reoccurring event. Objectivity does not exist because no one can observe from outside of their self. No thought can take place which is not subject to the self. Objectivity cannot exist.

2021-01-01 04:32:34 UTC  

Keep up the ridiculous strawmans I guess.

2021-01-01 04:32:43 UTC  

You choose to be wrong. Not the first time. 😉

2021-01-01 04:33:16 UTC  

I don't actually claim to be right about everything. I'm open to being wrong, but in this case, I'm almost positive I'm not.

2021-01-01 04:34:51 UTC  

You have to remember that, in some constructs, saying things often enough makes them real.

2021-01-01 04:35:06 UTC  

You never really explained (apart from some vague assertions) how it was supposedly flawed. And you said that it showed Fox to be centre left, which it didn't.

2021-01-01 04:35:18 UTC  

That certainly seems to have worked out for you.

2021-01-01 04:35:38 UTC  

Indeed. My reality has been looking better each day.

2021-01-01 04:35:51 UTC  

How's yours going?

2021-01-01 04:36:10 UTC  

Does it often get better when you don't take your medication

2021-01-01 04:36:17 UTC  

Well, keep reading Marx and Engels all the way through the gulag.