yes i in no way ment to imply wrong doing was a strong straw man argument. @Zuluzeit if there is an age what is it 15 18? i know some 29 yr olds that sound not have that ability. so whoms opinion would make it law then?

Sex w a minor is legal in conservative states gooooo Bible

I have trouble with the law being a violation of equal protection clause. If a 15 year old can choose to have sex with a 16 year old then he/she should be able to choose a 26 year old.

What?

so 13 is ok then so long as you are in Iraq?

I actually do not have an answer to what the age limit should be.

It came from a discussion about whether or not Trump was a conservative, and a claim that conservatives don't think that the government should be issuing marriage licences, as that is not a government matter. That led onto a discussion about what the government should or should not be regulating regarding relationships.

@ShittyKitty Indeed, that's the question at hand. Turns out it's not simple from an academic perspective, as I'm taking from @GregInHouston2 point.

I think evangelicals have the marriage laws down to 13 14 15 in many states still. You just can’t have sex with an unmarried 15 year old because God wouldn’t like that

Thanks for the clarification!

you had asked about if some should not have the ability to "Consent" @Maw

Yes, it was a thought exercise because I think consent is nuanced.

Muslims and Christians are pretty lock step on this Iraq wants child brides too

Thought exercise. That's the term I was seeking.

yea sorry if i made it real

Not at all. Yes, there may be some similarities, but also differences. The number of wives, for example, is quite a difference.

I don't care about Iraq; I care about US!

Lol you're good. It's fraught with land mines. @ShittyKitty

so 15 is cool then @GregInHouston2 is that what you think?

It was a counterpoint to the idea that rape does not require structures of relationships/positions of authority.

It’s super weird that states have zero interest in shoring up all the weird laws they have

but maw that makes it so much more fun...

like i said safe words

uh

I don't know if it is or isn't. I have no interest in a 15 year old. But what if I'm on a jury?

Depends on the state, of course.

Personally, I have never had sex with a teen. The youngest was my bride who was 29.

@GregInHouston2 Good news. In court, they'll tell you what the law is...but this seems to be about why the law *should be*.

I don't care what the law is. Jury Nullification. If the law is wrong or wrongly applied, I do not have to convict!

law of the land i thought was you argument in you words "I care about US!" so if thats the law in the state you are cool with that?

Therefore you get kicked off the jury. Woo.

Maybe. But not with cause!

Starting to sound a lil advocaty, tbh.

you mean there is a jury of my peers i would like to meet them... wow you would not want to walk into our land just saying

As a jury member, you would be required to determine whether or not a person was guilty *as defined by what the law says*. Otherwise you're not doing your duty as a jury member.

If you don't agree with the law, you're removed from the jury usually.

Exactly. I cannot convict someone unless they have broken the law. Period. I do not have to convict.

DAM YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!

Tell dc juries that

You have to determine guilt or innocence. Probably technically it's the judge that then convicts.

@Philip R, you just advanced to level 7!