But not in Texas!

That would be why it said "almost always".

That’s not what the Chewbacca defense is? Shame on you South Park

You're pivoting to sentencing when we were talking about verdict.

They're related.

In fact, when I Googled "do juries pass sentence ", one of the options that came up was "do juries pass sentence in Texas"!

I don't think anyone would dispute that Texas is 'special'.

Verdict != sentencing.

GOD BLESS TEXAS!

Amen

I said that trial by jury doesn't mean that the jury does everything; judges still pass sentence. And therefore "trial by jury" doesn't *necessarily* mean that juries convict as opposed to just determining guilt or otherwise.

Ok, but that wasn't my argument.

your Honer i am sorry but that codom is much to large for me. "if the glove does not fit you must acquit" so "i did not have sexual relations with that woman" = chewbacca!

Also being convicted is the determination of guilt.

LOL!!!

Hence why it's "being convicted and sentenced"

sorry all i never claimed i was right but 90% of my arguments hold up in court

That's the bit that I wasn't sure of (and did not dogmatically claim). But I've now checked, and you're correct; determination of guilt IS the conviction.

I've never been a juror on a criminal trial; they don't want me.

I was on one once, but the trial was aborted.

yea i dodged a coat hanger for the 1st 9 mounths of my life...

Really? Hard to dodge; there wasn't much room was there?

It wasn't murder, it was a 4th trimester abortion.

when you are backed against a wall you will be surprised what most can do

There were walls?

just wondering when is it to late to abort my son is 30 now what does the Scotus say?

Bad territory. My brother died at birth in "60. I was 1. The marriage went south after that.

yea no answer must be a latches thing

My daughter is 36; I wonder the same thing!

I'm thinking standing

i can fix him standing just give me 1 swing

next time i hear standing in court i honest to god will yell "LEG SWEEP"

It should say "nor shall any State deprive any person of life".

I agree with Robert Barnes on standing; it's just a way for the court to cop out!

"FINNISH HIM"

Can't. We're not in Finland!

dam we must be in A town called Fucking, in Austria!

@ShittyKitty, you just advanced to level 10!

OVER 9000!

I still wonder what the prize is for advancing a level.

me thinks you just won the internet!