Message from @Massie1223

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2021-01-01 17:41:43 UTC  

Gohmert said the VP can just choose fake electors to count and Trump's Department of Justice is like uh thats not how the law works. No thank you

2021-01-01 17:43:13 UTC  

Random people can't just be like I declared myself an elector sending a letter to Pence

2021-01-01 17:43:59 UTC  

Gohmert actually sued the VP and Pence replied to the judge that Gohmert sued the wrong person, implied that Gohmert should be suing Congress (of which Gohmert is a part) because Congress sets the rules that the VP must follow on Jan 6th

2021-01-01 17:44:45 UTC  

I thought Gohmert sued like everyone and their dog

2021-01-01 17:45:21 UTC  

that included Pence and his dog I guess

2021-01-01 17:45:38 UTC  

Obviously we need some rules in place to determine what constitutes an electoral vote to avoid constitutional crisises

2021-01-01 17:46:20 UTC  

Easier said than done.

2021-01-01 17:47:05 UTC  

Pence's filing pointed out the irony of Gohmert's argument. "Ironically, Representative Gohmert's position, if adopted by the Court, would actually deprive him of his opportunity as a Member of the House under the Electoral Count Act to raise objections to the counting of electoral votes, and then to debate and vote on them."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/31/politics/pence-gohmert-electoral-college-lawsuit/index.html

2021-01-01 17:47:07 UTC  

Let's see this one is certified by the governor and secretary of state and state board and county boards and election workers and clerks as the official election count of the people and this one was some people signing paper around a picnic table that have no authority at all

2021-01-01 17:47:15 UTC  

We moved more toward a democratic system after implementing it as a republic system.

2021-01-01 17:47:28 UTC  

Which has left a lot to be desired in the constitution.

2021-01-01 17:47:29 UTC  

Theres some scenarios I can imagine where determining electors becomes sticky. This doesn't seem like it.

2021-01-01 17:48:19 UTC  

Agree.

2021-01-01 17:49:02 UTC  

Recounting unofficial ballots is still unofficial. Look at the paper, look at the ink. The paper is the target and the contention in this election, not the count, not the machines. If you've been paying attention you would know that recounting the ballots isn't what we asked for, we asked for a forensic audit.

2021-01-01 17:49:06 UTC  

Looks like organizations are coming clean with their data breach info before the s*** hits the fan with the solar winds deal.

2021-01-01 17:49:19 UTC  

Who knew how this works?

2021-01-01 17:49:29 UTC  

Remember, this system was designed to not have presidential elections.

2021-01-01 17:49:38 UTC  

What companies got wrecked?

2021-01-01 17:50:02 UTC  

This is going to be a boon for software developers the whole conservation about what should be an in house tool just changed 😄

2021-01-01 17:50:08 UTC  

Technology is obviously vulnerable to manipulation no matter what safe guard is in place. Not even Military is immune

2021-01-01 17:50:17 UTC  

And paper isn't?

2021-01-01 17:50:43 UTC  

For the record, I don't have a problem with technology itself, but not for something this serious, especially WITHOUT ID!!!

2021-01-01 17:50:50 UTC  

What does paper give us that tech with a paper audit trail does not

2021-01-01 17:51:09 UTC  

You can make a relatively safe, isolated machine.

2021-01-01 17:51:13 UTC  

Much like paper.

2021-01-01 17:51:22 UTC  

Then we should make it.

2021-01-01 17:51:30 UTC  

@Mox Agreed!

2021-01-01 17:51:40 UTC  

Because this election is fraudulent!

2021-01-01 17:52:29 UTC  

Fraud as far as the imagination can see

2021-01-01 17:52:47 UTC  

You should rename yourself deadhorse

2021-01-01 17:52:54 UTC  

@Mox Even if it was, this election's results aren't going to change most likely.

2021-01-01 17:53:20 UTC  

Like 0.1% chance of overturning, and that's being generous.

2021-01-01 17:53:25 UTC  

It really wasn't an election by the fair and free standard. It was a completely fraudulent activity. That was not an election. It was planned organized for a very long time to add ballots physically and electronically

2021-01-01 17:53:38 UTC  

I mean, thats what the narrative is. What was the narrative last election?

2021-01-01 17:54:01 UTC  

No, that's literally what I'm seeing with my two eyes.

2021-01-01 17:54:09 UTC  

Not the media's narrative.

2021-01-01 17:54:35 UTC  

Not the right wing media's narrative, etc.

2021-01-01 17:54:56 UTC  

So who won the election?

2021-01-01 17:56:07 UTC  

@Mox Looks like Biden did. You can try to argue about the fraudulent activity all you want, but it's not been exactly working, as I'm pretty sure you admitted earlier. Therefore I don't see Trump overturning this. Not even a narrative-related thing.

2021-01-01 17:56:17 UTC  

if you were paying attention you would know quite a few of these audits have already been done ... you would also know that recounting by hand is precisely what was asked for in court filings by Sidney Powell and others