But I honestly think 4 more years of Trump would cause even more irreparable damage to the current political divide. I was supporting Trump prior to the election, but his actions after the election have turned me hard onto the left.

And I'm seeing how bad the divide is now.

THANK YOUUUUUUU

When he can, sending him direct messages is the best way.

he took the existing divide and literally carved up the country

I overlooked a lot of his bs prior to 2020

What is the conjecture?

disagree with technology? ... for voting? but not for discussing voting? ... I would very much like to bring voting into the 21st century ... there's very little I can't do electronically online including banking, paying taxes, etc. ... seems like I should be able to vote online ... but when folks don't trust paper ballots in this country even when they've been counted 2 and 3 times both by hand and machine, then I just don't know how we can move forward

Gohmert said the VP can just choose fake electors to count and Trump's Department of Justice is like uh thats not how the law works. No thank you

Random people can't just be like I declared myself an elector sending a letter to Pence

Gohmert actually sued the VP and Pence replied to the judge that Gohmert sued the wrong person, implied that Gohmert should be suing Congress (of which Gohmert is a part) because Congress sets the rules that the VP must follow on Jan 6th

I thought Gohmert sued like everyone and their dog

that included Pence and his dog I guess

Obviously we need some rules in place to determine what constitutes an electoral vote to avoid constitutional crisises

Easier said than done.

Pence's filing pointed out the irony of Gohmert's argument. "Ironically, Representative Gohmert's position, if adopted by the Court, would actually deprive him of his opportunity as a Member of the House under the Electoral Count Act to raise objections to the counting of electoral votes, and then to debate and vote on them."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/31/politics/pence-gohmert-electoral-college-lawsuit/index.html

Let's see this one is certified by the governor and secretary of state and state board and county boards and election workers and clerks as the official election count of the people and this one was some people signing paper around a picnic table that have no authority at all

We moved more toward a democratic system after implementing it as a republic system.

Which has left a lot to be desired in the constitution.

Theres some scenarios I can imagine where determining electors becomes sticky. This doesn't seem like it.

Agree.

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-backed-project-get-schooled-breach/

Recounting unofficial ballots is still unofficial. Look at the paper, look at the ink. The paper is the target and the contention in this election, not the count, not the machines. If you've been paying attention you would know that recounting the ballots isn't what we asked for, we asked for a forensic audit.

Looks like organizations are coming clean with their data breach info before the s*** hits the fan with the solar winds deal.

Who knew how this works?

Remember, this system was designed to not have presidential elections.

What companies got wrecked?

This is going to be a boon for software developers the whole conservation about what should be an in house tool just changed 😄

Technology is obviously vulnerable to manipulation no matter what safe guard is in place. Not even Military is immune

And paper isn't?

For the record, I don't have a problem with technology itself, but not for something this serious, especially WITHOUT ID!!!

What does paper give us that tech with a paper audit trail does not

You can make a relatively safe, isolated machine.

Much like paper.

Then we should make it.

@Mox Agreed!

Because this election is fraudulent!

Fraud as far as the imagination can see

You should rename yourself deadhorse

@Mox Even if it was, this election's results aren't going to change most likely.

Like 0.1% chance of overturning, and that's being generous.