Message from @TaLoN132
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That's quite a long chain... What does it mean that these relationships predate the 2016 election by a lot. If they had this capability then, then what are we saying about the outcome of that election?
So @TaLoN132 it wouldn't have been ready in 2016 but ready in 2020?
Depends on personnel. If they can show persons with a history of being central to the program across 15 of those years, it is not so long a chain. A computer career at this point can have started in the 1970's and still be on going.
The united states government will never let a war start here. They'll let you seceed first and take what they can get.
If you want to see election rigging in action and exposed you need to look at a feature done by some chick named Millennial Millie where she exposed it in Kentucky elections a year or so ago. It was done by software manipulation. I'll see if I can find the link, it has been a long while since I watched it.
Possibly, but they acquired the Sequoia systems in 2010. If it was a conspiracy to rig elections, that's a long implementation.
If they were base systems already in practice or already built into the machines with similar functions it would not take 2 years. Like all the cars from Detroit being built by engineers that jack jaw at the 19th hole and then make their designs in wind tunnels built to the same specifications.
Less of a conspiracy and more of a movement generated by competitors to sell to the most corrupt dictators.
@Whithers That's my point regarding the 2016 election. This capability would have existed then.
@TaLoN132, you just advanced to level 2!
I suspect it has existed going back to punch cards.
When I dealt with IT I had people to write the shells for me. But I did flow diagrams which no one uses anymore. To pull this off effectively with the foundations going back 20 to 30 years, you would have to have someone involved that understood the original machine programming. I would think.
@Whithers, you just advanced to level 5!
You think the original programs were compiled from C, Fortran, Cobalt - or built from machine language itself?
I located that video I mentioned from Kentucky, worth looking at it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3NmZ3ceQNg
I'm not familiar enough with the punch card tabulating systems. My guess is that it went through many iterations. The scenario that Powell is promoting is that Smartmatic - being formed in FL in 1999 by Venezuelan expats - worked with Hugo Chavez in 2003 to build a system that he could use to manipulate vote counts. My guess is that they acquired Sequoia more for their e-Voting system that was relatively new, at that time. Given that we are talking about post 2000, the voting machines are likely running a fairly modern OS and they are developed on a relatively recent development environment (possibly Linux/Java or Windows/VB). The management and tabulation systems are likely run on a PC. Complete speculation on my part given the age of the founders of Smartmatic.
It seems that with the Georgia hand recount affirming the count, that the idea that Dominion (they use Dominion statewide) is switching or deleting votes via some embedded backdoor functionality becomes less and less likely. It also puts a damper on the assertion that votes were switched on a foreign server. It also shows that bad faith actors did not process the same stacks of ballots multiple times to jack up the vote for their chosen candidate. It really only leaves the option of what @RobertGrulerEsq was suggesting about vote replacement in the last step of the chain of custody. Mail-in ballots being replaced for one candidate being replaced with ballots for another. But why wouldn't they have tried to affect the downstream ballot races?
I am not convinced. I remember a lot of corporate systems, especially security oriented ones, were running in DOS back then. MS was still trying to convince every one that the crap they pulled in the 90's wasn't still an issue.
Hubris. They did not think they could lose the down stream races because they were focused on Trump.
My reasoning is using the Smartmatic - Venezuela connection as the starting point - as Sidney Powell has asserted.
Understood. Mine is about who would be the experts and what experience did those experts have in what systems.
For the Democrats the idea that Trump could take away 30 or more pts of any minority vote is unfathomable.
@RobertGrulerEsq If you don't believe you are losing your base and you are losing large chunks of your base, you have a blindside on down stream votes. You only focus on the top of the pyramid where you think it is only Trump's evil personality and everyone else will suddenly realize your superior Leftist morality as soon as he can no longer cast spells.
Huh?
Robert isn't a leftist.
@Maw No one said Robert is a Leftist. He asked why the Dems didn't pay attention to the downstream votes if they were rigging elections.
My answers is hubris. You they were sure they owned the downstream elections.
Oh, you were speaking in terms of a different 'you'.
Right, You as in the If this is what you see then you act this way.
If you have 10 people working for a month straight to fill out enough ballots to sway an election, then you need them to just fill out the top of the ticket.
Sorry, we had a lot of comments today about Robert being a Biden Shill and Trump supporter both.
Hypothetical variable you.
That keeps the conspiracy small
Nope. I think he is more of a slightly Left leaning Libertarian, If I were to guess.
So, given that the GA recount disproves mass vote flipping, doesn't it go a long way in invalidating nearly all of the assertions regarding an embedded software malware or hidden nefarious function that flips votes?
Right-leaning according to Robert, but a fair assessment.
I don't think it disproves mass vote flipping.
Particularly in the camp of 'taxation is theft'.
@Maw which is silly ...literally the reason I watch his analysis is the objective middle ground stance based in reality
It was actually my assertion...