I think both parties benefit from the current system

Which is why it won't change meaningfully

the establishment in both parties benefit

as they have the networks and connections in place to abuse the system

In Intel we used to say: In G-d we trust, all others we monitor. We'd monitor G-d if we knew how.

secret ballot is essential in any fair election

@ImNotGas js the intention of the setup is to take bad things out of play. It doesn't always benefit the same people, so everyone has a stake in it.

The corporatists, RNC and DNC are the problem. And they will sell this nation out in a heartbeat for profit.

That is why corporate RINO's aligned with DNC for this election.

theres no functional difference between biden and romney

only in the way they pander to their base

@RobertGrulerEsq Have you ever looked at total employment figures for the US?

I don't imagine it is as simple as any of us would conceive.

Well after the debacle this year, there might not be a better time to try.

That's true @TaLoN132

No I haven't @Whithers what do they show?

trump should run with this and make this the right wing russiagate x10 for the next 4 years

@TaLoN132 You can hash and sign with a public/private key your vote.

@TaLoN132 You get my vote for Patience of a Saint award, top honors. I do a lot of back reading. You're a machine.

Monaro has ring signatures.

whip up the base, make the incumbent rino senators work for their seats in 2022

In 1990 I studied the numbers from the Census and the Dept. of Labor. End result about 25% of nation too young to work, and at least 52% dependent on alternative revenue (spouse, pension, stocks, soc sec, illegal un-taxed sources, etc.) for income. That has to affect our voting patterns.

oh absolutely

I was also wondering... If Trump were to somehow be successful in preventing enough states from certifying their votes this year to kick the decision to the House of Reps, what would prevent the candidate who's party had more than 26 majority delegations from using that tactic every election? And would the courts - especially SCOTUS - possibly take that potential outcome into consideration when ruling on any cases this year?

I'm more perturbed by the people who pay no taxes voting. I know that is not a popular opinion.

the number of people that are actually net contributors to the budget is a scarily low portion of the population

Thanks!

@RobertGrulerEsq it matches with the opinion of the framers of the constitution

Yes... also, 2-factor authentication. I was thinking.

Well, remember us old guys on Soc Sec used to pay taxes on it. But Clinton cut the size and cost of govt. in part by mandating Soc. Sec. reduction by cost of the taxes. And then fired all the accountants that used to keep track of it.

@TaLoN132 its electoral vote first, then a contingent election in the house under the 12th amendment

That seems like a weird position to have while advocating for no taxes.

So anyone over 65 would not get to vote since they are in retierment?

@Jorgen Johnson, you just advanced to level 1!

I would prefer that Sydney prove that 30% of the vote for Biden was fraudulent.

Understood... Some are suggesting that Trump's aim is to keep filing court cases preventing states from certifying, so Biden can't reach 270 electoral votes.

They wouldn't get to vote on new taxes that they don't have to pay!

Hahaha fair

Js

I get it

It's not a realistic argument