Maybe I’ll put a few taco stands out of business.

Here's how I know the starvation thing is largely bullshit: Have you ever seen immigrants who from places like Somalia? They usually look pretty bad healthwise, unless they were upper class back in their home country. My family were peasants in Poland. If the narrative is true, they should have been starving in breadlines for 8 hours a day, which would have caused stunted growth and all kinds of health problems. Yet, none of them have this. They all look fine. So, ya, communism was bad, but it wasn't Somalia tier like some people on the right make it sound like.

I think a lot of “x ethnic group looks weird” is kind of eyeroll, but seriously. Somalis (Somali men more-so) look ill

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Didn’t they just starv certain parts of the country?

no lol

I’m not against leaning left either

But they would take grain from the farmers and give it to say the urban population

If you're talking about the Holodomor, the reason is affected primary Ukraine is because that's where the grain happened to be produced. There's literally zero evidence that it was a genocide.

Kingdom of that $$wagg purple mountain Kush

anime won the Super Bowl?
noice.

Also, a large part of the Holodomor was that the Kulaks were retards who decided to burn their own grain out of spite

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Are we taking about the Rohingya

@Jacob I’ll look into from that perspective.

@VinceChaos Link evidence that Ukrainians were intentionally targeted

Oh god

We have access to Soviet archives, so if there was a genocide against Ukrainians, you'd think there'd be at least *one* document ordering it

I don't even like Stalin, I just don't think bad history is something we should engage in even if it benefits us

What being an early 21st century American is like
>read about bizarre ethnic group one day
>they suddenly start appearing all around you

It’s like some bizarre Berkeleyan Idealism where whatever ethnic group you read about last starts bleeding into reality because you read about them

A 5th dimensional wave function collapsed from hypersubjectivity into the guy running the shell station by your house

I’m in the middle of Alabama and the dude running the shell station by my house is Kashmiri

The highest level of woke is realizing that literally every genocide is exaggerated.

Think about it. If you survived a war, are you going to be like, "eh, both sides did a few bad things"? Of course not, you're going to try to get as much sympathy as possible.

I just looked up Frazier Park and apparently it's only 85% white

and it's also 20% "Hispanic of any race"

so it's probably more like 65% white

@Jacob

dude that's really long

can you summarize or give me a specific paragraph to look for?

okay so I read the conclusion

the author is basically saying what I was saying

He says that it was largely the result of bad policies plus two bad harvests, and that it *might* be genocide if you use a broad enough interpretation of the word

I don't disagree with his analysis that Stalin's bad policies likely made the famine worse. The only issue I have is that the author doesn't take into account that the Kulaks were burning their own grain out of spite.

page 676

I read the page

doesn't say that Ukrainians were targeted

it also says "I do not argue that Stalin wanted to annihilate the peasants"

he deliberately starved people yes

maybe he did, but that's not the point I'm making

I'm not saying Stalin did nothing wrong, I'm just saying that there's no evidence there was a targeted campaign against Ukrainians

There's plenty of reasons Stalin was bad, we don't need to make stuff up to say he was bad