that's a good point

infant mortality rates were extremely high back then

https://youtu.be/B9KVMKp5JcM lol

It should also be noted that this is a great example of a, "youth bulge." Youth bulges happen specifically when there is extreme political instability, or catastrophic events.

Youth bulges happen primarily during great deaths such as the depression, Arab spring events, or recessions.
Something worth noting is the question of why the USSR didn't just move the Ukrainians to a different location, had they know their food supply was running dry.

well

because then you'd have a massive influx of people in the other location

which would take up the food supply

Why not just lend food from neighboring States? Seems easier

because then the neighboring states wouldn't have enough food

Darn, that is true

Hit or miss, I guess they never miss huh

Here is a good primary source document of a first hand account during that time in Ukraine. From the U.S commission investigation of the Ukrainian starvation incident. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951d00831044s;view=1up;seq=265;skin=mobile

Here is the original document source for investigation here if you want it https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/002468069

Now what is interesting is that in the written accounts of what the Kulaks said, is that their land were stripped from them, and they were forcefully sent away from their land. Ukraine's only food source, pretty much, was forced away.

My point is that Ukrainians and Russians both suffered from bad policies. The narrative that Ukrainians were targeted specifically is something that's made up to antagonize Russians.

Think about it logically, Sam. These same policies prioritize short term growth and economic spending but will lead to income inequality and our industry being sent south... an Easterling will do the same work as you but for far cheaper... free trade isn’t fair trade Sam... and you think the massive excursions into the Witch King’s realm pay for themselves? As if... we are looking at tremendous debt speculation, a large chunk of which is owned by elves... your children will face many financial hardships

I wonder if there's a Sambo Baggins

Like a hybrid of Bilbo and Sam

Only...lower IQ

@Papa Pizzagate delete this

Leave Tolkien out of this

TurningPointShire

Stop

https://youtu.be/LWdNNuuBb7w

@Aaron O'regan Beautiful, it really is something worth fighting for

I’m firmly against student loan forgiveness. University should only be for people who are aiming to become lawyers, doctors, or engineers, or for upper class people who can afford the luxury of studying as an adult. Most certainly, not for people who take out 100k in debt so they can get their BA for a goofy office job all so they could avoid getting a real skill which involves dirty hands. These people don’t know thei place and they do not deserve forgiveness for their foolery. /endrant

I have an engineering degree and seethe when hearing someone complain about being unemployed with 100k in debt because of their dance theory degree.

And how life is so unfair and that they shouldn’t have to pay their loans because they don’t have a job.

@⚡Clark⚡ I'm not, is it really just, fair or a good idea to have a large underclass of people saddled with a 100k in debt because of potential mistake they made while under pressure from their highschool/parents?

Not to mention they'll be much more drawn to extremism and revolutionary politics as a result.

Yes the system is equally to blame indeed

I think there needs to be a better job done on the high school counseling level to help educate these kids on the options available to them, and where it can or can’t lead them

Admissions standards are too low and everyone is now expected to go. I have a relative who couldn't pass community college intro to psych. There's no reason he should have been there. Our system should have guided him to a skilled trade.

Why should we have an entire industry whose purpose is to offload the training costs of other industries onto their future employees? Colleges shouldn't even exist.

Hmm. Universities should have a concentration of the best minds in a dicipline. An individual empolyer wouldn't likely have that level of expertise to pass along.

They would, if the experts weren't all off teaching at universities.

Job training is distinct from theoretical background. Additionally, I think there is benefit to the "well rounded education" notion. And, large companies could have an additional expert or a few, but not every business model can be expected to sustain the weight of having a ton of extra people.

In Europe, only the smartest go to uni

Though, for some diciplines, I think mentor/apprenticeship could be more heavily utilized.

I mean, I can't speak to the needs of every industry. But I am a web programmer, and I am doing just fine learning without a college. I have to believe it would be similar for many industries.

I'd agree. Programming is similar to skilled trades in a way. You could make a similar arguement for medicine, tbh, which is how that used to be done - with mentors. But with that example, I'd like a doc to understand physicis and chemistry that relates to cellular biology that relates to the pharmacology before I get a medication from that doc.

@sigruna14 hot take: Server Admin hates college kiddos