ehhhhh

College is cool!

College is necessary to gain institutional power

@Kingfish you are literally not worth conversing with at this point

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@Danpat Let's be respectful fellas.

When adults of working class that otherwise should be working, are instead studying, taking out debt to do so, because society told them it’s a smart idea, there’s a problem

@DixieBoy76 - KY we generally want people to do well and be able to afford homes and be able to start families earlier than their 30s. It seems like (it may depend on the area), but at least for where I come from, trade school is not nearly advertised enough

You’re just kinda making some really broad generalizations about a pretty elaborate and necessary system

Alright well how bout some actual substance instead of just no I’m right

Not at all lmao

people should make more pragmatic choices in college, sure

but it's a ticket to the dance

trades are good too, especially if you start your own business

College isn't right for everyone, and we definitely have more people going than should be

It’s the same thing with the federal reserve is gay argument. Yeah the academic system right now is pretty rough because of who’s at the head. But it’s so deeply tangled with the job market at this point to reject the system is a setback not worth taking

We should be utilizing and trying to work our way to these systems not completely shying away from them

What if we founded Evropa University? Phd gang rise up

@Kingfish what a straw man nobody ever said education was inherently bad

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I wouldn't make a blanket statement like "most people in IE should go". You should look at your financial situation, how you did in high school, what you want to do in life, your family situation, etc, and make a calculated decision. I think it's dangerous the way we pressure teenagers into it like it's something they have to do. @NateDahl76

@Danpat I just popped in here for 3 seconds and already I notice you didn't heed Ian's message tagging you

Im not allowed to disagree with someone?

I agree to an extent @Jacob . But I *would* make a blanket statement like that for IE. Won't pressure anyone, but even small institutional roles can have a big impact, and IE members are mostly intelligent enough to get into a high paying field otherwise

I think that's true, that most people here have the IQ for it. Though college can be pretty rough financially and even if it *does* pay off within years, being set back for those 4 years can be very difficult.

True that

@Danpat of course you are, but we just need to remain respectful when disagreeing.

Broke : Bachelors degree
Woke: Doctorate degree
Reclaim institutions

doctorates take a hot minute. I'd rather not be paying debts till I'm 50

@NateDahl76 lol depending on what you go into its free

Most doctoral programs pay you

To be honest, I think if you have the resources for it, taking a "bullshit" degree and getting into the college administration would be a phenomenal thing to do. But few people have those kind of resources.

I have no interest in a trade

You usually work as a teachers aid or research worker or something

Ah, didn't know that

Trade school is cool for some people sure

I’m sure it’s circumstantial but it’s pretty common

You also have to factor in your family situation with college and I think that's something a lot of people forget about. My parents have a lot of problems and if I knew that university would keep me tied down to them for another 4 years, I wouldn't have gone.

Yeah a guy I know is getting a Phd and he gets paid like 30K a year to be in school.

I’m lucky ish my dad owned a plumbing company so by the time I was 18 I could pretty much build a house plumbing wise start to finish but I still wish I would’ve gone to college