or any acceleration, as your centrifuge shows

and you can define a force for any movement

but it doesn't require the theory of gravity

@raspberry yes and I have heard people say gravity can instead be explained by Archimedes principal which I was trying to show as not really making sense

@Fran @Wendigo sure, i think buoyancy is an effect of things falling. not a cause

but, just saying, you don't need gravity to have the fact that things fall

hm? that sounds like 2nd law of thermodynamics, instead of buoyancy

well they are related

ok now i think i see what you're saying. the pressure gradient of earth's atmosphere, i think that'd be a result of buoyancy bork

i guess things fall, then that causes buoyancy and the atmosphere's pressure gradient, and all wheter or not there's a globe and gravity

most people say buoyancy completely ignoring the pretty much indisputable fact that buoyancy acts under the assumption of a force

@raspberry What does buoyancy have to do with increasing entropy?

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What cat said

one person told me we could also be spinning in a circle and gravity is actually a mix of gravity and acceleration from centripetal force

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the acceleration change would near match that of gravity

@the21cat in globe earth centripetal force is a real thing

like up at mt everest

you guys steadily coming over to the dark side, huh? yup, there's actual debates to be had here.

yeah but im saying the one person said the whole earth is flat and spinning about a point really fast

they probably just claim it doesn't exist.

as radius (height increases) decreases force actually decreases

they do undeniably

I like arguing just about Newton's laws...

like usually people will say something contradictory to them

And I will just go ????

*"have you been there?"*

relativity is that one topic noone either sides dares to try to explain

Well

cue 97 Eleven

globe model has it down pretty well lol

It's just your average person here hasn't seen relativity outside of an undergraduate physics setting

So they have a poopoo understanding of it

It is true that GR is unfinished. It works great on regular scales but fails on quantum and macro scales.

yeah I would give flat earth models a chance if they actually explained themselves well but when people don't even admit to a downward force which would be required for buoyancy to work I can't do it

I'm surprised the denisty/buoyancy argument still exists, honestly. It's so easily falsified by simply dropping objects in a vacuum chamber.

thats true every buoyancy arguement is debunked. clever thinking

I didn't think about that

It's usually glazed over when I suggest it. 😑