one person told me we could also be spinning in a circle and gravity is actually a mix of gravity and acceleration from centripetal force

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the acceleration change would near match that of gravity

@the21cat in globe earth centripetal force is a real thing

like up at mt everest

you guys steadily coming over to the dark side, huh? yup, there's actual debates to be had here.

yeah but im saying the one person said the whole earth is flat and spinning about a point really fast

they probably just claim it doesn't exist.

as radius (height increases) decreases force actually decreases

they do undeniably

I like arguing just about Newton's laws...

like usually people will say something contradictory to them

And I will just go ????

*"have you been there?"*

relativity is that one topic noone either sides dares to try to explain

Well

cue 97 Eleven

globe model has it down pretty well lol

It's just your average person here hasn't seen relativity outside of an undergraduate physics setting

So they have a poopoo understanding of it

It is true that GR is unfinished. It works great on regular scales but fails on quantum and macro scales.

yeah I would give flat earth models a chance if they actually explained themselves well but when people don't even admit to a downward force which would be required for buoyancy to work I can't do it

I'm surprised the denisty/buoyancy argument still exists, honestly. It's so easily falsified by simply dropping objects in a vacuum chamber.

thats true every buoyancy arguement is debunked. clever thinking

I didn't think about that

It's usually glazed over when I suggest it. 😑

This dude in the other flat Earth discord tried to tell me the scientific method had to begin at observing "natural phenomenon" so man made experiments don't count 😴

Wtf

all man made experiments, huh? best Get Out Of Jail Free card ever.

Thats not how science works

i asked him to justify the distinction and he just said "it says natural phenomenon" and just did like a mix of appeal to authority and appeal to nature

I feel like he probably read something written by like Aristotle or Descartes about natural law or something

and assumed that meant things non manmade

As opposed to things that aren't super natural lol

Natural phenomenon can literally be anything

that's what I said lol all things in the natural world follow natural law

This might have been debated like 2000 years ago lol

You can still prove globe earth even with just "observing natural phenomenon." Tell him that there's TWO celestial poles, clearly observed in the sky. Two celestial poles = globe earth.

Pictures = fake news

Thats what they say

don't need pics. you can literally walk outside at night and snap a few of your own. if he refuses, he's intellectually dishonest.