I believe the earth is not a sphere and is flat

unless someone gives me a good reason to believe otherwise

Hi all. I thought it might be fun to join a server named after a mystical thing

You make it simpler to join than the FE 24/7 server where they argue almost exclusively using memes

@BubbleBurster 24/7 is trash

What did you do?

@MrGiggles So glad we're in agreement on that

At least this place has a debate chan

Memes are fun

Proof

Yeah. They relegated me to their semi-banned section and told me I was not debating in the proper place even though their mods didn't seem to catch that memo

That place is a joke

@BubbleBurster let's go to civil debate @Citizen Z

Why do you care so much

Dunno if anyone saw that debate on FTFE's channel today but it was a dumpster fire

@BubbleBurster the one that took place here in icewall?

Maybe. It had people from ice wall server in it

It was a 3 way debate. Globe earth, flat earth, and simulation theory lol

The latter must have been a joke tho

https://youtu.be/jo9536L5tOg

Phuket Word huh? That guy is one of the dumbest flat earthers

He lately believes that the sky is an actual liquid at some point

He's made demonstrations of perspective which accidentally debunk his own position

I don't take him seriously anymore

A lot of flat-earthers believe in a ‘waters above’ as described in the Bible iirc

Well yeah that's likely where he gets it from. Here's his reasoning:

It gets colder as you rise in elevation. At some point the oxygen, nitrogen, etc turns into liquid

Even though the temps for that to occur are known as are the temps in the atmosphere

Hmm

And high altitude balloons don't get wet nor show signs of contraction or freezing from extremely low temps that would have to be present for those liquids

Nor an explanation of how those liquids would stay suspended in the air

Basically "I believe X" and "I'm not going to address the problems with my positon"

The mesopause is the coldest part of the atmosphere and it’s still well above the boiling point of those gases

I think most people who believe in ‘waters above’ think that it’s above the firmament

That's fine. So what's the observation that leads to that hypothesis, I'd ask

Or the one that leads to the hypothesis of a firmament existing

Idk

You can only get to those hypotheses biblically. And that is NOT a valid launching point in science

True

And then even if you'd like to proceed with the scientific method, more power to you. But how would you test the accuracy of these claims?