imperative as in the biological drive

its refercencing the hedonic treadmill

The imperative being to use genetics to reqire ourselves

to get off the treadmill

Yes but it' says: "We will eventually get to a hedonistic'less society because of tech advancements weather we like it or not?" Or that we need to maintain pain so as to keep on hedonism alive ?

not that we should maintain pain

That we will and should get to socety that has removed pain biologically

with technology

with the justification that at root level

Oh I understand now thanks

pain is the fundamental cognitive 'bad' everything else is based around

all darwinian life

which obviously WORKS

but doesnt need to have same suffering raw edge that pain gives us

as a concious creature

we could just as easily have a HUD with a meter or gauge

like an airlane cockpit

to show and be aware of pain

rather than feeling the actual raw hot pain of touching a hot stove or something

you could get some non-pain indicator of it

Yea good analogy

@brucebruce Would you say it is a moral and/or social imperative for people to have children? Or are you arguing doing so optimizes life and wellbeing...or something like that?

Guys, cant the US build houses for 4 years and give them for free to people? And problem solved ?

Make it a National priority.. or something. Like the war on drugs

War on Homelessnesshood

Like when we built highways

Or atomic bomb

Yea

Yess

Or 100 other less important things

Spent 18yrs and trillion dollars in Afghanistan and accomplished 0

Global military presence

Or funded the new deal

Or the marshall plan

Or rebuilding japan

And US houses are very easy to build not like in europe. And we still have homes no rent . except rare cases

Or just bailed out cruise lines and every other frivolous shit run business from coronavirus

Yea

You should run for president Wiliam!!! 😄

Thanks

Maybe if ms miller mutes me less 🤪😇