Message from @William IV

Discord ID: 762797706879303691


2020-10-05 22:01:32 UTC  

What is it?

2020-10-05 22:01:42 UTC  

if you are into genetic engineering and philisophy and whatnot

2020-10-05 22:01:46 UTC  

maybe be up ur alley

2020-10-05 22:01:49 UTC  

or anyone elses here

2020-10-05 22:01:51 UTC  
2020-10-05 22:01:55 UTC  

just a website

2020-10-05 22:02:12 UTC  

alot of interesting philisophy and futurism stuff

2020-10-05 22:02:24 UTC  

I think its all really well grounded in reality

2020-10-05 22:02:31 UTC  

but is very very interesting and forward thinking

2020-10-05 22:03:10 UTC  

@ThePangburn Have you heard of hedonistic imperative or david pearce

2020-10-05 22:03:10 UTC  

Oh I get the idea. But I don't understand where the imperative comes in?

2020-10-05 22:03:16 UTC  

He'd be great to have an event with

2020-10-05 22:03:49 UTC  

imperative as in the biological drive

2020-10-05 22:03:58 UTC  

its refercencing the hedonic treadmill

2020-10-05 22:04:42 UTC  

The imperative being to use genetics to reqire ourselves

2020-10-05 22:04:45 UTC  

to get off the treadmill

2020-10-05 22:04:54 UTC  

Yes but it' says: "We will eventually get to a hedonistic'less society because of tech advancements weather we like it or not?" Or that we need to maintain pain so as to keep on hedonism alive ?

2020-10-05 22:05:17 UTC  

not that we should maintain pain

2020-10-05 22:05:34 UTC  

That we will and should get to socety that has removed pain biologically

2020-10-05 22:05:37 UTC  

with technology

2020-10-05 22:05:45 UTC  

with the justification that at root level

2020-10-05 22:05:49 UTC  

Oh I understand now thanks

2020-10-05 22:05:56 UTC  

pain is the fundamental cognitive 'bad' everything else is based around

2020-10-05 22:06:04 UTC  

all darwinian life

2020-10-05 22:06:51 UTC  

which obviously WORKS

2020-10-05 22:07:00 UTC  

but doesnt need to have same suffering raw edge that pain gives us

2020-10-05 22:07:08 UTC  

as a concious creature

2020-10-05 22:07:18 UTC  

we could just as easily have a HUD with a meter or gauge

2020-10-05 22:07:21 UTC  

like an airlane cockpit

2020-10-05 22:07:28 UTC  

to show and be aware of pain

2020-10-05 22:07:43 UTC  

rather than feeling the actual raw hot pain of touching a hot stove or something

2020-10-05 22:07:50 UTC  

you could get some non-pain indicator of it

2020-10-05 22:09:21 UTC  

Yea good analogy

2020-10-05 22:10:50 UTC  

@brucebruce Would you say it is a moral and/or social imperative for people to have children? Or are you arguing doing so optimizes life and wellbeing...or something like that?

2020-10-05 22:12:17 UTC  

Guys, cant the US build houses for 4 years and give them for free to people? And problem solved ?

2020-10-05 22:12:41 UTC  

Make it a National priority.. or something. Like the war on drugs

2020-10-05 22:12:57 UTC  

War on Homelessnesshood

2020-10-05 22:12:58 UTC  

Like when we built highways

2020-10-05 22:13:02 UTC  

Or atomic bomb

2020-10-05 22:13:02 UTC  

Yea

2020-10-05 22:13:05 UTC  

Yess