The determined nature does not justify humans who act the way they do in sin

Because God does not act on the predestination of all souls

The sum of decisions would be the history, God's knowledge facilitates history in all its decisions to be singular and not variable on will

So people's decisions will result exactly as determined

By free choice

@Doctor Anon

Even if events are predetermined then there is room for free will as we are ignorant of the future and any choice we make, even knowing it, is still done in free will however we know the ultimate outcome of our decisions. IMO tha tmakes sense, that or I may be retarded

It makes sense, unless both of us are retarded.

ikr @Mr. Wonderful regarding ur post, thx for the reply

have a good week

@Bogatyr Bogumir you got it

I'll try clarifying why you're right when I get home

Kill all Muslims

edgy and stupid

😎 this is what all the Kool Kidz are into these days

the idea is that the determinant nature is not destined by God's action, but ascertained by his knowledge yielding what will happen

so the sum of anything that happens will be free insofar that you will choose the determined choice 100% of the time

because that determined trajectory of history, time, or whatever is the sum of those choices

Without the role of God involved it devolves from a determinist outlook to a silly truism - What is chosen will be the result 100% of the time

Why not even try?

You do not know the outcome

Why not try?

If you try, salvation

If you don't, damnation

Or if you are right, we just die

I see no foul in trying

Trying is not enough

Obviously

Fanaticism is absolutely necessary

I'm just trying to simplify it

Anything less is not enough

You were just playing the Calvinism angle, that's all

The truth is that we cannot understand God's plan/goal for us as humans

We cannot comprehend what he plans for us

Just as an ant cannot comprehend the imagination of a human

Calvinism and pre-selection is actially retarded

@Doctor Anon what is your issue with my theory

Who is to say that God has any plans for us at all?

Maybe he only intervenes when we are about to kill ourselves or are about to hit rock bottom?

who is to say that it's all in our heads? maybe the sheer irrepressible power of the human mind and soul combined are just having a large-scale placebo effect and we just think "religion" is based from the people who think alike?
or even since it's all the human mind, all humans are interconnected in this so-called "religion"

@j.toffee