Message from @el pebble

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2018-12-10 19:40:15 UTC  

It wasn't their absolute free will to reject

2018-12-10 19:40:37 UTC  

They freely chose the course history will take

2018-12-10 19:41:42 UTC  

If God knows all to happen then there is only one determined timeline

2018-12-10 19:42:05 UTC  

That means every motion and decision is exactly the determined timeline

2018-12-10 19:43:09 UTC  

The determined nature does not justify humans who act the way they do in sin

2018-12-10 19:43:59 UTC  

Because God does not act on the predestination of all souls

2018-12-10 19:47:27 UTC  

The sum of decisions would be the history, God's knowledge facilitates history in all its decisions to be singular and not variable on will

2018-12-10 19:47:59 UTC  

So people's decisions will result exactly as determined

2018-12-10 19:48:03 UTC  

By free choice

2018-12-10 19:48:40 UTC  
2018-12-10 20:00:17 UTC  

Even if events are predetermined then there is room for free will as we are ignorant of the future and any choice we make, even knowing it, is still done in free will however we know the ultimate outcome of our decisions. IMO tha tmakes sense, that or I may be retarded

2018-12-10 20:14:31 UTC  

It makes sense, unless both of us are retarded.

2018-12-10 20:28:25 UTC  

ikr @Mr. Wonderful regarding ur post, thx for the reply

2018-12-10 20:28:30 UTC  

have a good week

2018-12-10 20:48:14 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir you got it

2018-12-10 20:55:57 UTC  

I'll try clarifying why you're right when I get home

2018-12-10 22:56:15 UTC  

Kill all Muslims

2018-12-10 22:56:36 UTC  

edgy and stupid

2018-12-10 22:56:50 UTC  

😎 this is what all the Kool Kidz are into these days

2018-12-11 00:38:36 UTC  

the idea is that the determinant nature is not destined by God's action, but ascertained by his knowledge yielding what will happen

2018-12-11 00:39:18 UTC  

so the sum of anything that happens will be free insofar that you will choose the determined choice 100% of the time

2018-12-11 00:39:32 UTC  

because that determined trajectory of history, time, or whatever is the sum of those choices

2018-12-11 00:41:09 UTC  

Without the role of God involved it devolves from a determinist outlook to a silly truism - What is chosen will be the result 100% of the time

2018-12-11 01:04:59 UTC  

Why not even try?

2018-12-11 01:05:11 UTC  

You do not know the outcome

2018-12-11 01:05:19 UTC  

Why not try?

2018-12-11 01:05:29 UTC  

If you try, salvation

2018-12-11 01:05:40 UTC  

If you don't, damnation

2018-12-11 01:05:52 UTC  

Or if you are right, we just die

2018-12-11 01:06:00 UTC  

I see no foul in trying

2018-12-11 01:06:03 UTC  

Trying is not enough

2018-12-11 01:06:08 UTC  

Obviously

2018-12-11 01:06:18 UTC  

Fanaticism is absolutely necessary

2018-12-11 01:06:20 UTC  

I'm just trying to simplify it

2018-12-11 01:06:22 UTC  

Anything less is not enough

2018-12-11 01:08:03 UTC  

You were just playing the Calvinism angle, that's all

2018-12-11 01:09:44 UTC  

The truth is that we cannot understand God's plan/goal for us as humans

2018-12-11 01:09:58 UTC  

We cannot comprehend what he plans for us

2018-12-11 01:10:19 UTC  

Just as an ant cannot comprehend the imagination of a human

2018-12-11 01:17:43 UTC  

Calvinism and pre-selection is actially retarded

2018-12-11 02:02:33 UTC  

@Doctor Anon what is your issue with my theory