Because people are already destined for hell or heaven

Yes, people who accept the gospel go to heaven and people who reject it go to hell

No one can truly accept or deny Jesus because where they go is already decided

You say decided as if someone plucked souls and put them in decisions

You cannot blame those who reject, because they were predestined to reject him

Those who reject are easily blameable, because of their rejection

They we're predestined to tho

It wasn't their absolute free will to reject

They freely chose the course history will take

If God knows all to happen then there is only one determined timeline

That means every motion and decision is exactly the determined timeline

The determined nature does not justify humans who act the way they do in sin

Because God does not act on the predestination of all souls

The sum of decisions would be the history, God's knowledge facilitates history in all its decisions to be singular and not variable on will

So people's decisions will result exactly as determined

By free choice

@Doctor Anon

Even if events are predetermined then there is room for free will as we are ignorant of the future and any choice we make, even knowing it, is still done in free will however we know the ultimate outcome of our decisions. IMO tha tmakes sense, that or I may be retarded

It makes sense, unless both of us are retarded.

ikr @Mr. Wonderful regarding ur post, thx for the reply

have a good week

@Bogatyr Bogumir you got it

I'll try clarifying why you're right when I get home

Kill all Muslims

edgy and stupid

😎 this is what all the Kool Kidz are into these days

the idea is that the determinant nature is not destined by God's action, but ascertained by his knowledge yielding what will happen

so the sum of anything that happens will be free insofar that you will choose the determined choice 100% of the time

because that determined trajectory of history, time, or whatever is the sum of those choices

Without the role of God involved it devolves from a determinist outlook to a silly truism - What is chosen will be the result 100% of the time

Why not even try?

You do not know the outcome

Why not try?

If you try, salvation

If you don't, damnation

Or if you are right, we just die

I see no foul in trying

Trying is not enough

Obviously

Fanaticism is absolutely necessary

I'm just trying to simplify it