Message from @Obungus
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You get punished
Indeed
So you have to follow or else you'll get punished
That makes his moral's arbitrary
Because they're arbitrary it would mean God's morals are subjective
That isn't true at all
How so?
Just because there is a punishment for evil does not mean that good and evil don;t exist
I'm not saying good and evil do not exist
I'm saying that based off your logic god's morals would be subjective
And I am saying you are wrong because your argument doesn't make sense
How does it not make sense?
Morality is not a decision made by God it is based on how His nature
so it can not be arbitrary because it is His natural attributes that morality is based on
According to what religion
Christianity
So you mean that you get your morals from the Bible
We get our morals from God and that morality is communicated through the bible
the morality exists with or without the bible
But in general you get them from the Bible
We get them from God
who communicated them through the bible
You read it in the Bible and assume it is true so you get them from the Bible
I don't assume it is
I have a lot of reasons to believe it is
The Bible is subjective because the morals communicated through the Bible change constantly and contradict in the Bible
For example the "thou shalt not kill"
That isn't true
That refers to unjust killing
Where in the Bible itself it is okay to kill non believers or disobedient children
God never said it was wrong to take a guilty life
Heretics improperly practicing Christianity does not mean God contradicts Himself
According to the Bible disobedient children are guilty
And so they were
So they get killed
And it is okay according to the Bible
Only if they laid hands on their parents iirc
Whatever they did it is still a contradiction to the thou shalt not kill moral
but it isn't
God has never condemned the killing of an innocent person