Message from @Obungus

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2018-12-12 15:49:16 UTC  

How does it not make sense?

2018-12-12 15:49:20 UTC  

Morality is not a decision made by God it is based on how His nature

2018-12-12 15:49:40 UTC  

so it can not be arbitrary because it is His natural attributes that morality is based on

2018-12-12 15:58:39 UTC  

According to what religion

2018-12-12 15:58:45 UTC  

Christianity

2018-12-12 16:13:18 UTC  

So you mean that you get your morals from the Bible

2018-12-12 16:13:52 UTC  

We get our morals from God and that morality is communicated through the bible

2018-12-12 16:14:00 UTC  

the morality exists with or without the bible

2018-12-12 16:14:39 UTC  

But in general you get them from the Bible

2018-12-12 16:14:58 UTC  

no

2018-12-12 16:15:03 UTC  

We get them from God

2018-12-12 16:15:16 UTC  

who communicated them through the bible

2018-12-12 16:16:03 UTC  

You read it in the Bible and assume it is true so you get them from the Bible

2018-12-12 16:16:49 UTC  

I don't assume it is

2018-12-12 16:17:01 UTC  

I have a lot of reasons to believe it is

2018-12-12 16:17:24 UTC  

The Bible is subjective because the morals communicated through the Bible change constantly and contradict in the Bible

2018-12-12 16:17:53 UTC  

For example the "thou shalt not kill"

2018-12-12 16:18:39 UTC  

That isn't true

2018-12-12 16:18:53 UTC  

That refers to unjust killing

2018-12-12 16:19:04 UTC  

Where in the Bible itself it is okay to kill non believers or disobedient children

2018-12-12 16:19:07 UTC  

God never said it was wrong to take a guilty life

2018-12-12 16:19:42 UTC  

Heretics improperly practicing Christianity does not mean God contradicts Himself

2018-12-12 16:20:37 UTC  

According to the Bible disobedient children are guilty

2018-12-12 16:20:45 UTC  

And so they were

2018-12-12 16:21:09 UTC  

So they get killed

2018-12-12 16:21:28 UTC  

And it is okay according to the Bible

2018-12-12 16:21:39 UTC  

Only if they laid hands on their parents iirc

2018-12-12 16:23:22 UTC  

Whatever they did it is still a contradiction to the thou shalt not kill moral

2018-12-12 16:23:34 UTC  

but it isn't

2018-12-12 16:23:46 UTC  

God has never condemned the killing of an innocent person

2018-12-12 16:23:59 UTC  

Thou shalt not kill is referring to murder

2018-12-12 16:24:56 UTC  

Genesis 9:6 King James Version (KJV)

6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

2018-12-12 16:24:56 UTC  

**Genesis 9:6 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<6> Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. ```

2018-12-12 16:25:16 UTC  

The punishment for shedding the blood of a man is to shed their own blood

2018-12-12 16:25:23 UTC  

death penalty for murderers

2018-12-12 16:25:27 UTC  

an eye for an eye

2018-12-12 16:25:44 UTC  

God has never implied that people who are guilty should not be executed

2018-12-12 16:27:07 UTC  

@Obungus how about the case of rape then

2018-12-12 16:27:16 UTC  

what about it?

2018-12-12 16:27:38 UTC  

Are you talking about where the rape victim can be punished for not screaming?

2018-12-12 16:27:48 UTC  

No