So you mean that you get your morals from the Bible

We get our morals from God and that morality is communicated through the bible

the morality exists with or without the bible

But in general you get them from the Bible

no

We get them from God

who communicated them through the bible

You read it in the Bible and assume it is true so you get them from the Bible

I don't assume it is

I have a lot of reasons to believe it is

The Bible is subjective because the morals communicated through the Bible change constantly and contradict in the Bible

For example the "thou shalt not kill"

That isn't true

That refers to unjust killing

Where in the Bible itself it is okay to kill non believers or disobedient children

God never said it was wrong to take a guilty life

Heretics improperly practicing Christianity does not mean God contradicts Himself

According to the Bible disobedient children are guilty

And so they were

So they get killed

And it is okay according to the Bible

Only if they laid hands on their parents iirc

Whatever they did it is still a contradiction to the thou shalt not kill moral

but it isn't

God has never condemned the killing of an innocent person

Thou shalt not kill is referring to murder

Genesis 9:6 King James Version (KJV)

6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

**Genesis 9:6 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<6> Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. ```

The punishment for shedding the blood of a man is to shed their own blood

death penalty for murderers

an eye for an eye

God has never implied that people who are guilty should not be executed

@Obungus how about the case of rape then

what about it?

Are you talking about where the rape victim can be punished for not screaming?

No

About how it is okay to rape people if they're virgin's and are prisoners of war

And forcing them to marry you

Could you give me the verse?

Deuteronomy 21:10-25:19 Good News Translation (GNT)

Concerning Women Prisoners of War

10 “When the Lord your God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners, 11 you may see among them a beautiful woman that you like and want to marry. 12 Take her to your home, where she will shave her head,[a] cut her fingernails, 13 and change her clothes. She is to stay in your home and mourn for her parents for a month; after that, you may marry her.

**Deuteronomy 21:10-23 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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Female Captives / The Right of the Firstborn / Rebellious Children / Miscellaneous Laws

<10> When you go out to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God hands them over to you and you take them captive, <11> suppose you see among the captives a beautiful woman whom you desire and want to marry, <12> and so you bring her home to your house: she shall shave her head, pare her nails, <13> discard her captive's garb, and shall remain in your house a full month, mourning for her father and mother; after that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. <14> But if you are not satisfied with her, you shall let her go free and not sell her for money. You must not treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her. <15> If a man has two wives, one of them loved and the other disliked, and if both the loved and the disliked have borne him sons, the firstborn being the son of the one who is disliked, <16> then on the day when he wills his possessions to his sons, he is not permitted to treat the son of the loved as the firstborn in preference to the son of the disliked, who is the firstborn. <17> He must acknowledge as```