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Well, you could say this was a punishment for you being a scheming japdoge
@Khat Emperor did you just insult another shib
@everyone Daily Question 🔖
What is a nation? What are it's defining characteristics? Is it important and should it be preserved?
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a nation needs to have a government and semi-definitive culture, it's important it is preserved as it is the natural outcome of when humans come together into a group and deicde to bring order
The national is race and culture
Well the etymology of the word "nation" brings you back to Latin: "natio", in regards to birth, which goes back even further to "nascor", which is a word you could use to mean you are literally born or are so many years old. "Nation" didn't even mean as it does now until recently, as it's original meaning has become so diluted with the crossing of peoples within a single country. The "Iroquois Nation" was several different tribes, but one people. A "nation" is a blood connection.
A nation is a homogeneous country
The words "nation" and "natal" (which is a reference to a woman's womb) have the same etymology for a reason
@Deleted User can anyone become a part of the nation?
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anyone could be part of a nation yeah
He's asking that because the way you define a 'nation' is very contemporary.
'Nation', nowadays, might as well mean 'country'. When the two words actually used to have separate meanings.
A nation is a group of people that share a common ethnicity, race, culture, language, and/or religion that inhabit the same region(s).
For example there are 2 Korean states. However there is one Korean nation.
@Diadochi is there any possible way for a person to become a part of a nation outside of being born into it?
So it isn't possible to marry in? Will you always be separate?
Your children would be (potentially, depending), but not you. If you married in, sure, you may in all practicality be treated as a member of the nation, but you would not be in the literal sense. Your children potentially would be, depending on the nation's interpretation of how this works. Happas aren't considered Japanese in Japan, for instance.
What about someone from a closely related nation? Like a Korean marrying a Han?
I think what I said just then would still apply. In all practicality, as much as you'd ever experience, and as much as anyone around you is concerned, you may be a "member of the nation", but you would not be in the most literal sense.
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a nation is an area of land that falls under the jurisdiction of a sovereign authority wether democracy, dictatorship , or other means
@Euro-American Bandit also i disagree with a common group of people
what if theyre all ruled under a dictator with an iron fist
Well a single individual can't be counted as a nation. And neither can a dictator.
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i should add a group of people and land
Yea that makes more sense honestly
Forgot to add the land bit
@L0GAN what do you say to the point made earlier that Korea is one nation comprised of two states?
The nation is a meaningless concept tbh
A nation is a people or conglomerate of people that unite under the same banner and share the same heritage, a blood bond, and are the discendants of that original tribe. The nation as such is any and all groups that (using tertiary identity derived from smaller groups and from primary identity of individuals) share costoms, traditions, and most fundumentally a group that is tied by blood.
A nation is a group of people and a culture stuck on one geographic location. It not only should be preserved, but it's necessary that it is preserved. A cultureless people are bound together by nothing except the state, this is disastrous and bound to fail.
i'm not a nationalist so idc what a nation is
if i remember correctly it's a territory controlled by a state that is culturally homogeneous
Nah, the state has nothing to do with the nation as far as I'm concerned. If you think the state's involved, demonstrate how.