Message from @Diadochi

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2018-09-25 05:47:03 UTC  

Hitler, Mussolini, and Salazar, yes,

2018-09-25 05:47:19 UTC  

However, others such as Peron were isolationist

2018-09-25 06:38:50 UTC  

Don't waste your time on watching academic agent's video, that guy is a fucking moron

2018-09-25 06:49:13 UTC  

I already did

2018-09-25 07:30:31 UTC  

Rip

2018-09-25 07:31:07 UTC  

Well, you could say this was a punishment for you being a scheming japdoge

2018-09-25 18:14:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955238186614794/494209983378882602/42518648_1890579247917912_3068343400974516224_n.jpg

2018-09-25 18:48:25 UTC  

@Khat Emperor did you just insult another shib

2018-09-25 19:27:15 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

What is a nation? What are it's defining characteristics? Is it important and should it be preserved?

2018-09-25 19:27:24 UTC  

gay

2018-09-25 19:27:24 UTC  

no u

2018-09-25 19:27:43 UTC  
2018-09-25 19:29:10 UTC  

a nation needs to have a government and semi-definitive culture, it's important it is preserved as it is the natural outcome of when humans come together into a group and deicde to bring order

2018-09-25 19:31:09 UTC  

The national is race and culture

2018-09-25 19:31:13 UTC  

Well the etymology of the word "nation" brings you back to Latin: "natio", in regards to birth, which goes back even further to "nascor", which is a word you could use to mean you are literally born or are so many years old. "Nation" didn't even mean as it does now until recently, as it's original meaning has become so diluted with the crossing of peoples within a single country. The "Iroquois Nation" was several different tribes, but one people. A "nation" is a blood connection.

2018-09-25 19:31:21 UTC  

A nation is a homogeneous country

2018-09-25 19:33:30 UTC  

The words "nation" and "natal" (which is a reference to a woman's womb) have the same etymology for a reason

2018-09-25 19:34:07 UTC  

@Deleted User can anyone become a part of the nation?

2018-09-25 19:35:52 UTC  

wdym

2018-09-25 19:36:06 UTC  

anyone could be part of a nation yeah

2018-09-25 19:37:50 UTC  

He's asking that because the way you define a 'nation' is very contemporary.

2018-09-25 19:39:51 UTC  

'Nation', nowadays, might as well mean 'country'. When the two words actually used to have separate meanings.

2018-09-25 19:43:39 UTC  

A nation is a group of people that share a common ethnicity, race, culture, language, and/or religion that inhabit the same region(s).
For example there are 2 Korean states. However there is one Korean nation.

2018-09-25 19:58:07 UTC  

@Diadochi is there any possible way for a person to become a part of a nation outside of being born into it?

2018-09-25 19:59:21 UTC  

Not as much as I can think of

2018-09-25 20:01:50 UTC  

So it isn't possible to marry in? Will you always be separate?

2018-09-25 20:03:42 UTC  

Your children would be (potentially, depending), but not you. If you married in, sure, you may in all practicality be treated as a member of the nation, but you would not be in the literal sense. Your children potentially would be, depending on the nation's interpretation of how this works. Happas aren't considered Japanese in Japan, for instance.

2018-09-25 20:08:27 UTC  

What about someone from a closely related nation? Like a Korean marrying a Han?

2018-09-25 20:11:10 UTC  

I think what I said just then would still apply. In all practicality, as much as you'd ever experience, and as much as anyone around you is concerned, you may be a "member of the nation", but you would not be in the most literal sense.

2018-09-25 20:13:58 UTC  

Ok

2018-09-25 21:16:46 UTC  

a nation is an area of land that falls under the jurisdiction of a sovereign authority wether democracy, dictatorship , or other means

2018-09-25 21:19:42 UTC  

@Euro-American Bandit also i disagree with a common group of people

2018-09-25 21:20:23 UTC  

what if theyre all ruled under a dictator with an iron fist

2018-09-25 21:21:43 UTC  

Well a single individual can't be counted as a nation. And neither can a dictator.

2018-09-25 21:22:22 UTC  

true

2018-09-25 21:22:35 UTC  

i should add a group of people and land

2018-09-25 21:24:15 UTC  

Yea that makes more sense honestly

2018-09-25 21:24:21 UTC  

Forgot to add the land bit

2018-09-25 21:57:45 UTC  

@L0GAN what do you say to the point made earlier that Korea is one nation comprised of two states?

2018-09-25 22:18:47 UTC  

The nation is a meaningless concept tbh

2018-09-25 22:48:17 UTC  

A nation is a people or conglomerate of people that unite under the same banner and share the same heritage, a blood bond, and are the discendants of that original tribe. The nation as such is any and all groups that (using tertiary identity derived from smaller groups and from primary identity of individuals) share costoms, traditions, and most fundumentally a group that is tied by blood.