Not as much as I can think of

So it isn't possible to marry in? Will you always be separate?

Your children would be (potentially, depending), but not you. If you married in, sure, you may in all practicality be treated as a member of the nation, but you would not be in the literal sense. Your children potentially would be, depending on the nation's interpretation of how this works. Happas aren't considered Japanese in Japan, for instance.

What about someone from a closely related nation? Like a Korean marrying a Han?

I think what I said just then would still apply. In all practicality, as much as you'd ever experience, and as much as anyone around you is concerned, you may be a "member of the nation", but you would not be in the most literal sense.

Ok

a nation is an area of land that falls under the jurisdiction of a sovereign authority wether democracy, dictatorship , or other means

@Euro-American Bandit also i disagree with a common group of people

what if theyre all ruled under a dictator with an iron fist

Well a single individual can't be counted as a nation. And neither can a dictator.

true

i should add a group of people and land

Yea that makes more sense honestly

Forgot to add the land bit

@L0GAN what do you say to the point made earlier that Korea is one nation comprised of two states?

The nation is a meaningless concept tbh

A nation is a people or conglomerate of people that unite under the same banner and share the same heritage, a blood bond, and are the discendants of that original tribe. The nation as such is any and all groups that (using tertiary identity derived from smaller groups and from primary identity of individuals) share costoms, traditions, and most fundumentally a group that is tied by blood.

A nation is a group of people and a culture stuck on one geographic location. It not only should be preserved, but it's necessary that it is preserved. A cultureless people are bound together by nothing except the state, this is disastrous and bound to fail.

i'm not a nationalist so idc what a nation is

if i remember correctly it's a territory controlled by a state that is culturally homogeneous

Nah, the state has nothing to do with the nation as far as I'm concerned. If you think the state's involved, demonstrate how.

A nation by definition requires people of a common ancestral and cultural background

A state is a government that rules them and maintains their independence

hence: nation state

Nation state != Nation. I'm talking about nations.

States are helpful tools in the path to nationhood and indeed maintenance of a nation after.

@SilverLining Why is the nation a meaningless concept?

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Yes @Deleted User

How could you

not much b

It had to be done

A "nation" is often too vaguely or arbitrarily defined

Moreover, a "nation" experiences existential divides within itself

A nation is vague ergo no nation must exist

a bit of a leap, no?

but not too big of a leap for a maoist

a nation is too vague, arbitrary, and meaningless to actually mean anything tangible

ergo, a nation is a meaningless concept which shouldn't be of concern

Other factors are more vital

If we classify a group of people as a nation then are areas where’re Africans live part of Africa