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that is also na option that we seem to forget is possible, that genes may be capable of being modified, or some strange event of hyperplasia or something similar
@everyone Daily Question 🔖
What is the best way for a nation to help it's poor citizens?
charity and family
Gay
no u
SUcc?
communism
By executing them
capitaqlism
Seizure of the means of production
More jobs or the best is to just get rid of them
By getting rid of the non-white ones.
If you've got a problem then just remove it
Take away all the bad things
Christian communism @Doctor Anon
Socialism
National Socialism
smh
''Also, I would like to ask... How do you account for the fact that the IQ in what we now call the developed world has risen ~15 points, a full standard deviation, within the past 100 years?''
It's called the flynn effect @SilverLining
Benefits do not solve the problem, they make it worse
The best way to help the poor is to get rid of welfare, which keeps them locked in poverty. Eliminate minimum wage to reduce the barrier to entry, because the best way to get a better paying job is by showing you already have the skill to work. Finally, to deregulate charity, because that is what keeps small charities from forming and acting. My church was stopped from providing food to the homeless because it was home made rather than store bought and wasn't being served by someone with a food handlers license.
^ I agree make wellfare or other such ways of income, such that they are tied to work
otherwise it is ripe for abuse and generally it rewards being uselss
you need to incentivise usefullness
Of course there are those who cant, at times those who shouldnt work but those are exceptions to the rule
and of course for exceptions there is always room, rather than making the exception the norm and then there is no room for an old or new norm. You'll get the hardest pushback from minorities usually when it comes to wellfare.
@SilverLining
A lot to unpack here, so prepare for a read:
I'm surprised you would use IQ and Wealth of Nations here. Supposedly it's an inaccurate study, so I don't even use it myself.
"How do you account for the fact that the IQ in what we now call the developed world has risen ~15 points, a full standard deviation, within the past 100 years?"
You seem to be conflating the existence of environmental factors with the idea that only environmental factors contribute.
How do you account for the fact black Americans score lower on intelligence and PISA tests than poorer Eastern Europeans?
Also, If I recall,"Attitudes toward society" was brought up as being a potential factor in the higher crime rates of **black Americans who are richer than Eastern Europeans,** and I pointed out that can't be exactly true since Jews and East Asians were also discriminated against, and in many areas Jews had it worse than blacks during certain periods of time. Their income wasn't the focus of that point, and it doesn't really make sense to argue about it, since **we are comparing a richer group to a poorer group (Blacks versus slavs, jews versus whites)** in both cases and looking at their criminality.. We can measure Jewish attitudes about race, the United States, and white people, and compare them to other groups.
The point I was making about Jews is that in many ways they have been discriminated against in the past, and therefore have a negative attitude towards white people, arguably even more so than blacks have against white people, but their crime rates are nowhere near that of blacks and Hispanics. But let's say income has some kind of great effect, for the sake of argument.
Could it be that blacks are poorer and Jews are not? Sure, maybe.
Well, then I will revert back to my question about Eastern Europeans and Southeast Asians. Why are they far less criminal than blacks and Hispanics? Mexico is richer than several Southeast Asian nations, and has a standard of living comparable to that of Eastern Europe, so poverty isn't a sufficient answer. Location and the resulting drug gangs? Doubtful.
Next, due to fact that their parents had less access to education than their children do today, especially in Vietnam, it would be unwise to rely solely on the national average IQ as a measurement, instead of combining it along with breaking down academic success along generational lines, (looking at things like PISA scores as well) hence why I'm not doing it here. Nonetheless, an average IQ of >90 with far less resources than your typical black American who has an IQ (usually) below or around that really is telling that the poverty argument doesn't exactly hold up.
If it is because they hate their society, and are therefore more criminal because of their disgust, then surely we would see *some* difference in their home countries.
I don't know anymore
there is a big difference between black home countries and blacks in the slavery diaspora
Corporatist State and wealth redistribution
Africa as a continent doesn't support agricultural society and hence education and civility are subsequently overrode by survival instincts
thats the way to help the poor
the soviet union was a corporation
change my mind
It did trade military assets for Pepsi
"Africa as a continent doesn't support agricultural society and hence education and civility are subsequently overrode by survival"