this is all assuming marx was right (for the sake of argument), he'd still be in a position of saying communism and socialism can't work even today

So in my opinion, since gentile never put it into rule but Mussuolini did.....

but if marx would be against communism/socialism today, then that says it all tbh 😂

Mussolini's brand of fascism was a mix of corporatism (state capitalism) and state socialism

It was more of a mixed economy

that statement kinda highlights why I see socialism and fascism so similarly

I don't really see it that way

They are very similar

but can you understand why it can be seen that way?

yes

As evidenced in here, libertarians are politically illiterate

In fact the creator of fascism was a socialist

How many times is this stupid argument going to be brought up

Giovanni gentile

did you watch that in prageru

He has franco as his avi

Gentile later changed his mind anyways

before he created fascism

Fascism could be applied to both a left or right economic system

Yeah has just been more used for right wing in the past

But in most cases like for Mussolini the government invested in certain Industries

Which is generally a left wing thing

Id assume militant industries or industries that benefit the country?

no

Well

I misread what you wrote, nvmd

Yeah nazi Germany invested in stuff like that

Nazi Germany was a private enterprise driven economy

at best it was corporatist

at best

that is

Yes. Its a left wing thing to do but the thing is its all for the defence and profit of their country.

it was really just capitalism

Thats a part of what fascism is, they want their country in constant defence mode and ready to attack.

State capitalism

Democratic socialism no because it's never been tried, i take social democracy seriously because it's cancer, and even though no one knows what it stands for, the few things it does (welfare capitalism, high tax and regulation) are by no means positive forces for society, at least not without a strong Christian culture to wash it down with

Democratic socialists don’t realize that true socialism necessitates a totalitarian state

Otherwise it’s just social democracy

they're just trying to make socialism sound more palatable

>the few things it does (welfare capitalism, high tax and regulation) are by no means positive forces for society,

welfare capitalism