Message from @CALEB3613
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Gentile wasn’t Italian government, and Mussolini took main credit as president or whatever of italy.
Pretty sure Mussolini appointed him at some point, did he not?
this is all assuming marx was right (for the sake of argument), he'd still be in a position of saying communism and socialism can't work even today
So in my opinion, since gentile never put it into rule but Mussuolini did.....
but if marx would be against communism/socialism today, then that says it all tbh 😂
Mussolini's brand of fascism was a mix of corporatism (state capitalism) and state socialism
It was more of a mixed economy
that statement kinda highlights why I see socialism and fascism so similarly
I don't really see it that way
They are very similar
but can you understand why it can be seen that way?
yes
As evidenced in here, libertarians are politically illiterate
In fact the creator of fascism was a socialist
How many times is this stupid argument going to be brought up
Giovanni gentile
did you watch that in prageru
He has franco as his avi
Gentile later changed his mind anyways
before he created fascism
Yeah has just been more used for right wing in the past
But in most cases like for Mussolini the government invested in certain Industries
Which is generally a left wing thing
Id assume militant industries or industries that benefit the country?
no
Well
I misread what you wrote, nvmd
Yeah nazi Germany invested in stuff like that
Nazi Germany was a private enterprise driven economy
at best it was corporatist
at best
that is
Yes. Its a left wing thing to do but the thing is its all for the defence and profit of their country.
it was really just capitalism
Thats a part of what fascism is, they want their country in constant defence mode and ready to attack.
State capitalism
Democratic socialism no because it's never been tried, i take social democracy seriously because it's cancer, and even though no one knows what it stands for, the few things it does (welfare capitalism, high tax and regulation) are by no means positive forces for society, at least not without a strong Christian culture to wash it down with
Democratic socialists don’t realize that true socialism necessitates a totalitarian state
Otherwise it’s just social democracy
they're just trying to make socialism sound more palatable