I'm not sure how it goes so far off track.

I just want answers.

Land owners, those who aren't a negative contributors into the system

First of all people give voting too much credit. Don't be fooled, voting means far less than you think

And if I get them, I'm happy enough.

Okay, but how did those people get the land?

Usually by...

Inheritance.

?

Not necessarily

It's mostly a token gesture given by the elites to the masses to pacify them

So if you vote in one leader that is a different faction from the nobility, what do you think will happen?

Imo land ownership should be restricted to citizens

They'll split.

If push comes to shove and the elites reject the masses desires the elites will make sure it never comes to it's fruition

And you'll have the same issue.

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 what are you talking about?

There are all kinds of tricks and behind the scenes ways of manipulating "democracy"

Well, in a mixed government, you have inherited titles, and you have people who are voted in by the civilians.

How do you keep the power balance?

@Snakeisninja yeah, voting should really be restricted in scope. To seem as meaningless as it really is

Even if every official position is filled by someone who wants X agenda, there are unofficial positions too and those are firmly in the hands of elites

How do you force both parties to honour one another's power?

The $ for example, campaigns are financed by donors

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 they need delineated powers.

If the elites are desperate they can put their vast wealth to use and withdraw all funds from the candidate/official or initiate a scandal and have the official removed

That wasn't the question.

That's the point of a mixed government, each group has specific powers and responsibilities

How do you make them respect eachother.

Why do they need to respect each other?

And keep that respect.

The illusion that democracy is what it appears to be is ridiculous. It's just a cute fiction

When some titles are hereditary?

You want them to be in conflict, that way they don't get anything done

Because otherwise one group will eventually look to seize control.

Wha-

That is always happening

Look, every system has "undemocratic" authority behind it somewhere

It's an omnipresent reality of power

Somebody will be in charge either openly or behind the scenes and if people get in the way of the Elite's agenda then the elite will deal with them or be replaced by a new elite

Better to have the elites out in the open